Linux

Dave · 02-04-2007, 02:06 AM

So lately I get mocked a lot for having Linux on my computer, which is mainly because I have a class in Linux now, and I want to learn it well so I can operate webservers through command line.

But I want to know who actually uses Linux often? And what version of linux do you use?

I have Ubuntu on my home computer and Knoppix on my hard drive at school.

Necro · 02-05-2007, 02:03 PM

I had Ubuntu running on my old PC after finding out about the Live CD. So, I installed it. I wouldn't say that I would recommend Linux over Windows any day, but it is pretty flexible and for a free OS it was pretty good.

Someone made the PS3 run Windows 2000 off YDL (Yellow Dog), which was a waste of time. But that proves what you can do. Though, I'm kind of a Linux newb really, never got in to it, I do plan to at a later stage.

YopY · 02-05-2007, 03:57 PM

I used Linux for a while, just to see if it really was as great as all the computer nerds say. It was good enough for doing some webbrowsing and PHP devving and stuff, and it had a different look. But overall, it seemed slower to me then Windows, and just didn't work as easy.

The fact that you had to dive into the root account and do stuff in the console all the time didn't help either. Sure, it's fun to find out stuff like that, but consoles are just sooo last millennium.

(plus, DOS was easier

)

So, I went back to Windows. Easier, faster to use, less configuration, less 'zomg u nedd 2 b root 2 do taht', etcetera.

Although Vista has the 'zomg u nedd 2 b admin 2 do taht' thing going on nowadays.

Ssj7Crono · 02-05-2007, 06:48 PM

this may sound kinda stupid to as but wats the diffrence between Linux and Unix?

YopY · 02-06-2007, 04:19 AM

Not much, actually. Unix was there first, created by an university of sorts. It was open-source, and a lot of different companies like IBM and some unversities worked on it, causing a lot of versions of UNIX to be out there.

Later on, in the 80's, Linus Torvalds (the Linus dude) fixxed the Unix kernel and called it Linux (or Linus Unix or something).

Mac OS-X is also based off of Unix, actually.

Just found the Wikipedia article, worth reading btw. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux

I AM THE CAPS MONSTER · 02-06-2007, 10:57 AM

I like Windows better, then Linux then apple.

YopY · 02-06-2007, 12:13 PM

Ohbtw, we're supposed to do an installation of Linux along with a webserver and stuff like that too this period. And once that's done, we're supposed to go write a kernel module (sorta like a driver for a device) in C.

I AM THE CAPS MONSTER · 02-06-2007, 01:08 PM

Isn't LINUX slow that what i heard

:/ ????

Honest Abel · 02-06-2007, 01:10 PM

No. Linux takes longer to boot, I think, but slow? Nah.

I AM THE CAPS MONSTER · 02-06-2007, 01:15 PM

Oh thanks for the Quick Information!

YopY · 02-06-2007, 02:40 PM

In my own experience it was, though. I'm pretty sure that it was mainly because I had it installed on a removable hard drive of sorts.

The good thing about Linux is that it's highly versatile. Unlike Windows, you have a very large choice about what you do and what you don't want on it. Don't like the graphics? Change to a different window manager. Don't need all that flashy graphical stuff? Remove the graphical stuff entirely and go back to a console.

It's highly modular and configurable. That's why it's mainly the more nerdy kind of people who like it - more stuff to fiddle around with.

Ssj7Crono · 02-06-2007, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YopY

Not much, actually. Unix was there first, created by an university of sorts. It was open-source, and a lot of different companies like IBM and some unversities worked on it, causing a lot of versions of UNIX to be out there.

Later on, in the 80's, Linus Torvalds (the Linus dude) fixxed the Unix kernel and called it Linux (or Linus Unix or something).

Mac OS-X is also based off of Unix, actually.

Just found the Wikipedia article, worth reading btw. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux

ok thnx. thing is i'm using Solaris in college in my Compute Science major. Solaris, like Mac OS-X, is based of Unix also. Whats funny the Computer Science departmet where i'm at hates the Windows OS.

YopY · 02-06-2007, 05:52 PM

There is a large minority that does that, yeah. No experience whatsoever with Solaris, I get the impression it's a very specialized OS for Sun computers (at least, I think it was from Sun)

Ssj7Crono · 02-06-2007, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YopY

There is a large minority that does that, yeah. No experience whatsoever with Solaris, I get the impression it's a very specialized OS for Sun computers (at least, I think it was from Sun)

yea its from Sun Microsystems. all the hardware i use in college is from them also. ironicly Sun also does the whole Java thing, which happens what i'm learning at the moment.

Ssj7Crono · 02-06-2007, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YopY

There is a large minority that does that, yeah. No experience whatsoever with Solaris, I get the impression it's a very specialized OS for Sun computers (at least, I think it was from Sun)

yea its from Sun Microsystems. all the hardware i use in college is from them also. ironicly Sun also does the whole Java thing, which happens what i'm learning at the moment. theres a nice feature i like is that everything i do is stored on servers instead of hardrives. i can sit anywhere in class and it doesnt matter what computer i use. just use my login name and password and thats it. all my info, media everything pops up.

YopY · 02-07-2007, 09:10 AM

Convenient. I've installed a few of those kinda systems as well, it's either a full CITRIX-like system where all you have is a small terminal computer and everything is calculated on a server, or all your drives are just network connections to your personal folder on the server.

Ssj7Crono · 02-07-2007, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YopY

Convenient. I've installed a few of those kinda systems as well, it's either a full CITRIX-like system where all you have is a small terminal computer and everything is calculated on a server, or all your drives are just network connections to your personal folder on the server.

its what i like about it. u can access ur info from any computer. not only that u can acess files from windows to through the internet file transfer protocal. makes transfering homework and projects easy.

Angelus-Mortis · 02-07-2007, 06:43 PM

I have Fedora on the campus computers, but I like it better than the Winblows ones because it screws up less, and it doesn't take forever to log in.

I'm starting to use Unix more now.

Kukuk · 02-13-2007, 01:44 AM

I use Ubuntu alot, unfortunately Wine kinda sucks on it, but games that run natively on Ubuntu run really well.

I love Ubuntu's ease of use. Ive never used any other Linux, but I was right at home with Ubuntu.

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Dave Former FFExtreme Owner Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ottawa Age: 22 Posts: 706 Rep Power: 6	Linux So lately I get mocked a lot for having Linux on my computer, which is mainly because I have a class in Linux now, and I want to learn it well so I can operate webservers through command line. But I want to know who actually uses Linux often? And what version of linux do you use? I have Ubuntu on my home computer and Knoppix on my hard drive at school.

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Necro Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Broken Hill Age: 16 Posts: 808 Rep Power: 5	I had Ubuntu running on my old PC after finding out about the Live CD. So, I installed it. I wouldn't say that I would recommend Linux over Windows any day, but it is pretty flexible and for a free OS it was pretty good. Someone made the PS3 run Windows 2000 off YDL (Yellow Dog), which was a waste of time. But that proves what you can do. Though, I'm kind of a Linux newb really, never got in to it, I do plan to at a later stage. __________________ construction.

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02-05-2007, 03:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
YopY BOOM HEADSHOT! Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 22 Posts: 299 Rep Power: 4	I used Linux for a while, just to see if it really was as great as all the computer nerds say. It was good enough for doing some webbrowsing and PHP devving and stuff, and it had a different look. But overall, it seemed slower to me then Windows, and just didn't work as easy. The fact that you had to dive into the root account and do stuff in the console all the time didn't help either. Sure, it's fun to find out stuff like that, but consoles are just sooo last millennium. (plus, DOS was easier ) So, I went back to Windows. Easier, faster to use, less configuration, less 'zomg u nedd 2 b root 2 do taht', etcetera. Although Vista has the 'zomg u nedd 2 b admin 2 do taht' thing going on nowadays.

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YopY BOOM HEADSHOT! Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 22 Posts: 299 Rep Power: 4	Not much, actually. Unix was there first, created by an university of sorts. It was open-source, and a lot of different companies like IBM and some unversities worked on it, causing a lot of versions of UNIX to be out there. Later on, in the 80's, Linus Torvalds (the Linus dude) fixxed the Unix kernel and called it Linux (or Linus Unix or something). Mac OS-X is also based off of Unix, actually. Just found the Wikipedia article, worth reading btw. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux

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I AM THE CAPS MONSTER Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: SomeWhere Age: 16 Posts: 364 Rep Power: 4	I like Windows better, then Linux then apple.

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YopY BOOM HEADSHOT! Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 22 Posts: 299 Rep Power: 4	Ohbtw, we're supposed to do an installation of Linux along with a webserver and stuff like that too this period. And once that's done, we're supposed to go write a kernel module (sorta like a driver for a device) in C.

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I AM THE CAPS MONSTER Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: SomeWhere Age: 16 Posts: 364 Rep Power: 4	Isn't LINUX slow that what i heard :/ ????

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Honest Abel Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 21 Posts: 550 Rep Power: 5	No. Linux takes longer to boot, I think, but slow? Nah.

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I AM THE CAPS MONSTER Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: SomeWhere Age: 16 Posts: 364 Rep Power: 4	Oh thanks for the Quick Information!

02-06-2007, 02:40 PM	#11 (permalink)
YopY BOOM HEADSHOT! Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 22 Posts: 299 Rep Power: 4	In my own experience it was, though. I'm pretty sure that it was mainly because I had it installed on a removable hard drive of sorts. The good thing about Linux is that it's highly versatile. Unlike Windows, you have a very large choice about what you do and what you don't want on it. Don't like the graphics? Change to a different window manager. Don't need all that flashy graphical stuff? Remove the graphical stuff entirely and go back to a console. It's highly modular and configurable. That's why it's mainly the more nerdy kind of people who like it - more stuff to fiddle around with.

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YopY BOOM HEADSHOT! Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 22 Posts: 299 Rep Power: 4	There is a large minority that does that, yeah. No experience whatsoever with Solaris, I get the impression it's a very specialized OS for Sun computers (at least, I think it was from Sun)

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YopY BOOM HEADSHOT! Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 22 Posts: 299 Rep Power: 4	Convenient. I've installed a few of those kinda systems as well, it's either a full CITRIX-like system where all you have is a small terminal computer and everything is calculated on a server, or all your drives are just network connections to your personal folder on the server.

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Angelus-Mortis Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Age: 22 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 4	I have Fedora on the campus computers, but I like it better than the Winblows ones because it screws up less, and it doesn't take forever to log in. I'm starting to use Unix more now.