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Originally Posted by Vermilion Thanatos
Are we talking about the same Greenpeace? The one that is one of the major driving forces behind environmental sustainability, something while not as much of an emergency as Al Gore's lies advertise is still something we'll eventually need to impose worldwide? Are there dirty secrets I've never bothered to find out?
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The very same Greenpeace.
On first sight one would easily think that this organisation's pursuit of a healthy environment, and sustainable energy usage policies is a good thing.
However, I do not agree, and so do many others.
The reason is simple: I occasionally like to drink a glass of water, take a shower, drive to work, or just go to a pub. I like to call friends, go to the movies, watch internet porn. I also like to have a machine making my coffee, another one keeping my food cold and fresh, and another one washing my not-wearable-any-more pile of clothes. (This one is right next to my dirty-but-still-wearable pile of clothes, right next to my empty cupboard). I enjoy typing right now in this very moment, because I know you still have no clue what I am aiming at. All these things are quite comfortable and enrich my life.
3.5 billion people on earth do not have that luxury.
That's roughly 50% of our planets homini.
Now unlike me and a handfull others out there, Greenpeace has come to the conclusion that those 50% shall never be able to enjoy anything like that.
If we look back into not so ancient history we'll eventually discover how it comes that we in the so called Western-World do have all that and others don't...Industrial Revolution. Exactly...we cut down, burned down, rolled over, dig out and stamped down every bit of nature that was in our way. We built factories to pollute the air until we would get doped up from it. We laid tracks, built roads, and send out whole fleets of ships to distribute the goods from A to B and from B to C, where they'd be turned over and sent back to point A, so we could call them fancy imports. (j/k on that last bit) until we had restrained every wild living animal and peace of nature to such small areas that we could easily build fences around them and call it a Safari.
Every single bit of nature, that we could get to without sweating our pants off, we exploited until there was nothing left.
Now....a good century later we finally discover that what we did was not that good for our mother earth...but well...what's done is done right? Not like anyone was gonna invent a time machine any soon...so what to do?
Exactly, we just make sure the 3.5billlion people that haven't done so yet, will never get there, and maybe we'll have a shot at clean air and fresh water for another hundred years. And how do we do that? We make laws
Laws are generally a amazing thing because they always seem to work out just fine for the ones setting them up. So we just make laws that the other 50% of the world are not allowed to cut their trees, pollute the air, or even demand any kind of electricity. And when laws don't work in the middle of fcuking nothing somewhere in the wilderness of Uganda, well then we still have...Greenpeace
Like our own little anti human rights hitsquad that goes into the bush and tells the people to leave the trees alone so their grandchildren would have fresh air to breathe. Because that's exactly what Greenpeace does.
If I was to put my words in a picture, you'd see Greenpeace, as a healthy white male in his mid twenties , with 2.6 children, 1.8 houses and his 1.6th wife, holding up a bag of MC'Donalds towards a little starving black child (Representing 3rd world countires) and telling him, he can't have the cheeseburgers because eventually that would mean his own grandchildren would have to starve one day. However he'd be willing to kindly offer a trade of 1 of his cheeseburgers for 3tons of Coffee, or 1.5 tons of Tobacco.
My point is I haven't seen any organisation, willing to disregard all human rights for a certain group of people, ever since the Nazis.
That's what I think of Greenpeace.
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Originally Posted by Vermilion Thanatos
RAmen to that; U.S. has one of the lowest standards of living of first-world countries, ****ty education, hardly any social services, and an incredibly disorganized government. And non-believers, though the largest minority in the U.S., are still the least trusted, largely due to the propaganda the Church spews. I mean, a priest can't tell his parishioners exactly what an atheist's position is and why he/she holds it because if he had bothered to understand it himself he would no longer be a priest. And if you have to cherry pick through scripture to find morals that actually work, it's obvious that you're judging them on a more objective standard, i.e. reason, so ironically atheists are the ones who have seen past that and can live more moral lives than those tied down by dogma...
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RAmen? I'm not sure what you mean by that, this some sort of atheist thing? I don't know....or you refering to noodles? They taste great once you know how to eat them....
Anyways, I take it you agree with my opinion
And I sure do agree with the 2nd part of that lower section of yours.