Best Final Fantasy Bad Guy?

[Batman]

Originally Posted by The Man

If a villain has to rely on looks in order to be imposing then I’d say that’s a pretty good sign of ****ty character development

Which pretty much covers every FF villain from FFVII funnily enough.

[Vayne]

Oh hell yeah, of course there is. But in looks wise he would take the cup, but personality wise.... It would be a tough one.

[Daryl Falchion]

Yeah, but I think the Ultimania is a load of horse****. From the evidence in the game itself it's pretty obvious to me that Jenova was manipulating evidence around Sephiroth to lead him to the conclusion that she was his mother, and thus enabling him to be set off on the path of narcissism, pyromania, and omnicide which he so famously set out upon at Nibelheim. So even if he THINKS he's in control of his actions, it just so happens that his actions serve the purposes of Jenova just perfectly. Coincidence? I think not.

Oh, the ironic part is that I agree. There's a ****load of evidence to support that in the game and I myself thought the same until I heard about the Ultimania guide. The guide pretty much contradicts everything in the game but it's offiical canon and I hate to concede to it I find I can't really do otherwise. It's also offiically crappy. XD

[The Man]

My big guess is they published that to throw gamers off and they're going to have a ZOMG UNFORESEEN PLOT TWIST in one of the prequels showing that it really was Jenova in control all along, just like anyone who was really paying attention must have concluded in the first place. But, like I said, I cba paying attention to any of the FFVII compilation stuff; it's just not interesting to me

[Faded Hero]

Originally Posted by The Man

I’ve seen plenty of videogame villains with way more, actually. Try Suikoden II’s Luca Blight, FFVI’s Kefka Palazzo, FFIV’s Golbeza (not in the syrupy censored **** Nintendo forced Square to release though, try J2e’s translation for some real fun) and Shadow Hearts’s [spoiler]Albert Simon[/spoiler] for just four examples.

As for the appearance, meh, nothing that hadn’t been done before in too many animés to list. If a villain has to rely on looks in order to be imposing then I’d say that’s a pretty good sign of ****ty character development

Hell yes, Luca Blight owns the world of supreme evil guys. [spoiler] His final demise when he shouts out I am sublime! The true face of Evil!"was just too classic.[/spoiler]

and just for reference, Luca ftw

[The Man]

"Die, pig!" = greatest line in the history of gaming? Just possibly.

[Faded Hero]

Originally Posted by The Man

"Die, pig!" = greatest line in the history of gaming? Just possibly.

Followed of course by the double slash to the face.... definately, MOST definately. I think I really pissed myself at that part.

[Roger Mexico]

I'm partial to the "You can round up a million maggots..." thing, myself.

[The Man]

Hmm, good call. Don't know why I didn't remember that one myself.

[Daryl Falchion]

I think I enjoyed the Compliation for about maybe a few months...interest has died since.

What game is Luca from?

[The Man]

Genso Suikoden II. Although the "Genso" part was dropped for NTSC/PAL releases, but it's hard as hell to find because Konami never made enough copies. Your best bet is to emulate it, tbh.

[Tom]

Sure as hell isn't Sephiroth. Sephiroth is like Halo, overrated on so many levels you can't tell where it all started anymore. If you want a true bad guy look no further than Kefka. That guy was a ****ing psycho. He takes the top position of best FF villan by far.

[Jamie]

To be honest they arnt all that bad.

But i have decided that Seymour and Sephiroth are very similar and i think they are the generic baddy characters.

Both have had bad mother issues.
Both want to kill everything on the planet.
Both want absolute power.
Both have a twisted mentality on right and wrong.
Both are well known in their power.
Both were neglected by father.

But i think Sephiroph wins just slightly as he has the kick ass theme tune, he unlike the others i mentioned is the only one to personally kill off a character and finally he is over rated and eveyone likes an overrated villian.

[Batman]

Seymour is sexier though and he gets pretty close to getting into Yuna's pants, before she turned into a slut that is. That is something I can respect.

Also speaking of Luca I was partial to: "Let me tell you something. There are weak men and strong men in this world. The strong men take everything and the weak men die." Man that guy had so many good quotes.

[Ragnarok]

Originally Posted by Jamie

To be honest they arnt all that bad.

But i have decided that Seymour and Sephiroth are very similar and i think they are the generic baddy characters.

Both have had bad mother issues.
Both want to kill everything on the planet.
Both want absolute power.
Both have a twisted mentality on right and wrong.
Both are well known in their power.
Both were neglected by father.

But i think Sephiroph wins just slightly as he has the kick ass theme tune, he unlike the others i mentioned is the only one to personally kill off a character and finally he is over rated and eveyone likes an overrated villian.

Seymour and Sephiroth are in no way similar. Sure they follow the general bad guy archetype but they have different motives.

[spoiler]Seymour's parents were actually caring. He wasn't negelcted but since he was different from the rest of the kids (he was half-Guado and Human) and ended up as an outcast.

They did want to kill everything on the planet but Sephiroth wanted ultimate power. Seymour only wanted that power to free Spira. Sephiroth is feared throughout the game while Seymour actually has the backing of the general population of Spira. I also believe Seymour was sane but really had some issues. Believing death can free a person? Who knows?[/spoiler]

[The Man]

Originally Posted by Jamie

But i think Sephiroph wins just slightly as he has the kick ass theme tune, he unlike the others i mentioned is the only one to personally kill off a character

Exdeath kills off a playable character as well, for what it’s worth. And [spoiler]General Leo is briefly playable[/spoiler], so one could argue that Kefka kills off a playable character as well.

Also, it’s worth noting that “Those Chosen by the Planet” is almost identical to one of the tracks from FFV; I think it’s “The Book of Sealings.”

Originally Posted by Batman

Also speaking of Luca I was partial to: "Let me tell you something. There are weak men and strong men in this world. The strong men take everything and the weak men die." Man that guy had so many good quotes.

Verily. Apart from Kefka I can’t think of any other villain who gets so many great lines.

[Levis]

It must be..drumroll..SEPHIROTH!!!!!!!!!l i think so i dont think any other ffvillian can take him out and he looks cool too..and has a masamune

[The Man]

Sephiroth tried to summon Meteor, and failed. Kuja destroyed an entire planet. Kefka rearranged the face of one. It stands to reason from their successes that both of them could easily take him out.

...o rite, I forgot. cefirot rulz wth teh masauem :smoke:

[Tom]

I think you've got it wrong TM. Wasn't it Kefka who destroyed a planet and Kuja who rearranged the face of one?

[The Man]

Nope. [spoiler]Rearranging the Statues only rearranged the continents, although a huge number of people died regardless. Kuja actually destroyed Terra, though.[/spoiler]