Originally Posted by The Man If a villain has to rely on looks in order to be imposing then I’d say that’s a pretty good sign of ****ty character development

Which pretty much covers every FF villain from FFVII funnily enough.

Oh hell yeah, of course there is. But in looks wise he would take the cup, but personality wise.... It would be a tough one.

Yeah, but I think the Ultimania is a load of horse****. From the evidence in the game itself it's pretty obvious to me that Jenova was manipulating evidence around Sephiroth to lead him to the conclusion that she was his mother, and thus enabling him to be set off on the path of narcissism, pyromania, and omnicide which he so famously set out upon at Nibelheim. So even if he THINKS he's in control of his actions, it just so happens that his actions serve the purposes of Jenova just perfectly. Coincidence? I think not.

Oh, the ironic part is that I agree. There's a ****load of evidence to support that in the game and I myself thought the same until I heard about the Ultimania guide. The guide pretty much contradicts everything in the game but it's offiical canon and I hate to concede to it I find I can't really do otherwise. It's also offiically crappy. XD

My big guess is they published that to throw gamers off and they're going to have a ZOMG UNFORESEEN PLOT TWIST in one of the prequels showing that it really was Jenova in control all along, just like anyone who was really paying attention must have concluded in the first place. But, like I said, I cba paying attention to any of the FFVII compilation stuff; it's just not interesting to me

Originally Posted by The Man I’ve seen plenty of videogame villains with way more, actually. Try Suikoden II’s Luca Blight, FFVI’s Kefka Palazzo, FFIV’s Golbeza (not in the syrupy censored **** Nintendo forced Square to release though, try J2e’s translation for some real fun) and Shadow Hearts’s [spoiler]Albert Simon[/spoiler] for just four examples. As for the appearance, meh, nothing that hadn’t been done before in too many animés to list. If a villain has to rely on looks in order to be imposing then I’d say that’s a pretty good sign of ****ty character development

Hell yes, Luca Blight owns the world of supreme evil guys. [spoiler] His final demise when he shouts out I am sublime! The true face of Evil!"was just too classic.[/spoiler]

and just for reference, Luca ftw

"Die, pig!" = greatest line in the history of gaming? Just possibly.

Originally Posted by The Man "Die, pig!" = greatest line in the history of gaming? Just possibly.

Followed of course by the double slash to the face.... definately, MOST definately. I think I really pissed myself at that part.

I'm partial to the "You can round up a million maggots..." thing, myself.

Hmm, good call. Don't know why I didn't remember that one myself.

I think I enjoyed the Compliation for about maybe a few months...interest has died since.

What game is Luca from?

Genso Suikoden II. Although the "Genso" part was dropped for NTSC/PAL releases, but it's hard as hell to find because Konami never made enough copies. Your best bet is to emulate it, tbh.

Sure as hell isn't Sephiroth. Sephiroth is like Halo, overrated on so many levels you can't tell where it all started anymore. If you want a true bad guy look no further than Kefka. That guy was a ****ing psycho. He takes the top position of best FF villan by far.

To be honest they arnt all that bad.

But i have decided that Seymour and Sephiroth are very similar and i think they are the generic baddy characters.

Both have had bad mother issues.
Both want to kill everything on the planet.
Both want absolute power.
Both have a twisted mentality on right and wrong.
Both are well known in their power.
Both were neglected by father.

But i think Sephiroph wins just slightly as he has the kick ass theme tune, he unlike the others i mentioned is the only one to personally kill off a character and finally he is over rated and eveyone likes an overrated villian.