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Old 02-03-2007, 12:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Which Final Fantasy Villian do you think was the best? Sephiroth? Seifer? [spoiler=(FFVIII SPOILER)]Ultimecia[/spoiler]? [spoiler=(FFX SPOILER)]Yunalesca[/spoiler]? Who?

I personally say that [spoiler=(FFXII SPOILER)]Lord Vayne[/spoiler] was a total bitch. I liked [spoiler=(FFX SPOILER)]Yunalesca[/spoiler]. She was one baddddd girl. lol. I really liked her as a Villian.
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Old 02-03-2007, 12:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I would have to say [spoiler=(FFXII SPOILER)]Vanye. His motives were realistic and yet not entirely selfish. Yet he ruined many peoples lives to obtain that power in order to free Ivalice from the Undying.[/spoiler]

Sephiroth is one of the best but he has his flaws. I viewed him as a puppet of Jenova who was really pulling all the strings.

[spoiler=(FF8 SPOILER)]Ultimecia was a worthy boss for the final battle in FFVIII but lacked motive in my opinion. But her goals were on the grandest scale when compared to the other villians. Not only did she want to control the world but time and space itself.[/spoiler]

Kuja is one of my personal favorites. He in my eyes a fallen hero. One who is confused and confounded by the questions man has been asking for ages.

[spoiler=(FFX SPOILER)]Yu Yevon and Yunalesca were mediocre villians. I have to admit Yunalesca is hot! Seymour was more of a co-villian in my opinion. His character wasn't truly evil but I really do not feel any connection to him.[/spoiler]

Overall [spoiler=(FFXII SPOILER)]Vanye[/spoiler] takes the cake. Thoughout the game [spoiler=(FFXII SPOILER)]he is illustrated as a man of honor and peace but behind the doors he is a ruthless savage.[/spoiler]
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Old 02-03-2007, 12:47 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Sephiroth, obviously. There's something about long flowing locks and being the bad guy in the FF series' most overrated game that attracts me to him more than anything else. [/tethar]
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Old 02-03-2007, 01:01 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Garland for “Light Warriors? You impertinent fools. I, Garland, will knock you all down!”

Kefka is a close second though, srrsly.
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Old 02-03-2007, 09:58 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Would it be cliche to say Sephiroth? :happy:

Second would be Kuja for me. A very peculiar, but effective character. A kind of saving grace for me in FFIX.
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Sephiroph he's my favorite villian of all time
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Old 02-03-2007, 09:39 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Seymour was more of a co-villian in my opinion. His character wasn't truly evil but I really do not feel any connection to him.
I dunno, his brand of nihilism was extremely destructive to all forms of life, and anything that intentionally causes unwanted destruction of life seems to me to qualify as nothing but evil.

Anyway, gotta go with Kefka. Not only is he the the only villain who actually succeeds at all of his initial goals but he also has the best lines in the series by far. And he didn't want to kill everyone because of some stupid angst motive, he was just plain ****ing crazy, and he reveled in his insanity. He knew he was a ****ing prick, but he didn't care, nay, he took pride in the fact that he was a ****ing prick. It takes a special class of villain to pull that off.

Second would have to be Kuja, I guess. His motivations for turning evil were a lot more profound than Sephiroth's "I want my mommy, lol" or Seymour's "Life is pain and I'm gonna go listen to Linkin Park," and the scenes with [spoiler]Alexander fighting Bahamut and the destruction of Terra[/spoiler] were just breathtaking. Golbeza was excellent, as well, [spoiler]only then it turned out he wasn't really a villain at all, and the guy who'd been mind-controlling him turned out to be a total poofter.[/spoiler]

Also, I'm going to add a ****load of spoiler tags to this thread, especially seeing as a ton of people, myself included, still haven't played FFXII yet.
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Old 02-03-2007, 09:55 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I would have to say that the best villain of all times is Sephiroth. I can't really tell if anyone among the members of this comunity doubts why Sephiroth should be entitled the Best Villain but now I will explain why.

A) Sephiroth evil nature was caused because his father injected him the JENOVA cells, so that means that the evil runs in the family.
B)Sephiroth burned down single handedly the town of Nibelheim.
C)He was quite a pain in the ass when you fought him in the final battle at the end of FFVII
D)Clones of hims were made! (You know, the Remnants of JENOVA)
E)Come on he is quite hard to kill if you play either KH or KH 2.
F)He almost destroyed the world with a huge damned Meteor. DAMN!
G) Must I need to say more? lol
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Old 02-03-2007, 09:56 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Sephiroth is the worst villain in the series, tbqh. Everything about him is a cliché, and everything noteworthy he did is one-upped by Kefka's actions in FFVI. Sephiroth almost summons Meteor to rearrange the face of the planet? Kefka rearranges the statutes and actually DOES rearrange the face of the planet! Sephiroth burns Nibelheim? Kefka burns Mobliz and a ****load of other towns! There's just no ZOMG 1337 FMV SEQUENCES for Kefka, so everyone gets swayed to Sephiroth because they're graphics whores.
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Old 02-03-2007, 10:09 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Sephiroth is pretty cliché but he's no where near the worst. There are some pretty hilariously cookie-cutter villains in the series like Garland, Emperor, Xande and Ultimecia. The first three might have the excuse of being from NES games but Ultimecia? Wow she was awful. [spoiler=(FFXII SPOILER)]Vayne[/spoiler] isn't anything special from what I've seen of him so far either.

The best would probably be Kefka. I still find it amusing that a villain from a 16 bit game should have more character than most of the FF villains that succeeded him. Kefka was, pure and simply, unusually well written.
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Old 02-03-2007, 10:11 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I haven't played FFVIII yet so I haven't gotten to experience the horror that is Ultimecia. Actually I haven't played the NES games either. Okay, he might not be the worst villain in the series, then, but he's easily the most overrated.
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Old 02-04-2007, 01:31 PM   #12 (permalink)
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sephiroth was just plain Bada**

i hated seymour.. the little git
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Old 02-04-2007, 09:54 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Kefka owns them all. For reasons already perfectly stated by The Man. ****ing crazy clown.


2nd would have to be Kuja, indirectly responsible for war and millions of deaths. Oh, and the destruction of another planet.

Sephiroth I can take or leave, I don't hate or love him.

Ultimecia, IMO, is the worst villain in the series.
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Old 02-04-2007, 10:52 PM   #14 (permalink)
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In away sephiroth and kuja are quite the same:

They were both experiments and both hated someone for that.
Wanted to take out their revenge on a planet.
Ha-ha both ahd white hair. (except for Kuja when he was in trance)
Both had some sorta close brother (kuja+Zidain--Sephiroth+Kadaj)


I like both villians to tell the truth but mostly Kuja though Sephiroth was more of a villian. I put him in the top 10!


Has anyone noticed that in most Final Fantasy's, The guy villans look like women in a way?
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Old 02-04-2007, 11:26 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Kefka all the way for me.

He just comes off as the villain you just want to get your hands on, but is also a cool character too. His laugh is also very memorable.

Nobody screws with Kefka. Not even Chuck Norris.
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Old 02-04-2007, 11:35 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Sephiroth wasn't really even much of a villain considering it's pretty clearly implied that his insanity was intentionally triggered by Jenova. He's just a pawn, really.
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Old 02-04-2007, 11:42 PM   #17 (permalink)
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For the political bad guy, it would have to be [spoiler=(FFXII SPOILER)]Vayne[/spoiler]. Anyone who's familiar with politics knew he was trouble from the beginning of the game and could easily tell he had ulterior motives.

As for turning evil bad guy, Kuja. While sephiroth did turn evil. It was a reactionary move. "Mommy! I want my mommy!" While Kuja's methods of becoming evil were more proactive to him wanting more power, and by the time he found out no matter what he was going to die, he was well into the dark side of the force so to speak.
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okkay okkay I agree Kuja wanted more power and destroyed almost two planets, 3 large cities, he hated how he was an experiment and knowing that his brother Zidane was created to finish the job and was more powerful then him. When Zidane was mad at why he was made, Kuja laughed to himself and tried to kill garland, then he realized garland could not die (or something like that) and took his anger out on the planet filled with clones and absorbed even more energy and was about to destroy Zidanes world when Zidane beat the crap out of him. Then Kuja went back to save him but Kuja was so filled with hate and greed that he died without giving himself another chance. so yes I change my answer I think Kuja should be in the top ten!
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Kefka. I liked his evil attitude and his insane laugh.
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Old 02-05-2007, 12:49 AM   #20 (permalink)
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<<" I like the Tsviets. Nobody else does, but I guess most people haven't read the MM Script nor got all the juicy tidbits from the DoC Perfect guide either. I think they'll go down as being some of the most underrated bad guys in FF history because DoC had such ****astic gameplay.

Yeah, yeah, you're suck with the hole "we're experiments and we hate the world" kind of thing, but it's the first I'm I've actually seen said experiments being abused, struggle for their own freedom and then completely and utterly forgotten about. Seriously, if I had a gun, I probably would've handed them to it.

... And shouldn't this go in the general FF section? I'd do it, but as like eight staffers have already posted...
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