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Old 09-12-2007, 10:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Crisis Core End Hints At Final Fantasy VII Remake?

To the most Final Fantasy savvy, it would be obvious to us that "Of course the end of Crisis Core will link into Final Fantasy VII" due to the fact that its the prequel of the legendary game.


That hasnt stopped rumours of a remake of FFVII making the news today. According to PSXtreme, a Gamefaqs walkthrough writer known as Kouli came across images of the end of Crisis Core- some of which contain images of the original intro of FFVII, which look quite similar to the much talked about tech demo which surfaced in 2005. The cutscene ends with To be continued in Final Fantasy VII when Cloud steps off the train.

PSXtreme argue that getting a hold of FFVII in shops nowadays is pretty much a thankless task which supports the belief that SE will relent and remake FFVII.

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Old 09-13-2007, 03:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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it also seems to hint at another yet unannounced spin off title...
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lol. Well I guess we know for sure now which way they are headed with the FFVII Remake. Seems like just yesterday ppl were trying to petition for it when they probably could've just wait the whole time
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i was under the impression that it was an eventual thing. Square Enix is just keeping any news of it under wraps..

SE isn't stupid.. and is still profit-driven. Knowing the demand of FF7 (and the series in general) you can tell they've already cashed in on this.. Its only a matter of time before they do 7. Its just a matter of HOW they'll execute the remake.
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those six images are pretty nice, and they are quite different from the tech demo thats for sure.

but let's say that SE will not do the remake, then i think that most people will loose some credibility towards SE, and see the new games that they are developing as something else and wouln't be expecting much of it. and due to this i also think that SE will have a hard time recovering the enthusiasm they've lost and maybe won't recover 100 %.

i'm not saying that the best option they have is to release the remake but i have to admit that SE has managed this situation the best way possible, so that they can get more of it..
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Honnestly, I don't want a Final Fantasy VII remake. I just don't think that it'll be as good as the orginal one because I know what will happen.

Another reason it might be bad is because of Tetsuya Nomura. He ruined the sequel and Square might make the dumb mistake of letting him to the remake.
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care to explain how he 'ruined the sequel'?
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Another reason it might be bad is because of Tetsuya Nomura. He ruined the sequel and Square might make the dumb mistake of letting him to the remake.
I don't really want a remake of it as Final Fantasy VII is already over-rated/over-fan based too; but you must remember that Tetsuya Nomura has worked on video games that have just about all been well-received by the gaming community and art communities with his in-depth character designs.

Sure Final Fantasy has not been the same since the end of the era (after Final Fantasy VI - the one which Nobuo Uematsu himself has stated that the original series finished at) and with Nomura working with Amano and Yusuke on the original Final Fantasy VII and again on various other games.

If the original team works on it then I might buy it again otherwise if it is made by another division that has not worked on a single Final Fantasy VII/Gaia/Jenova project (Compilation of Final Fantasy VII Projects) then it most likely would not be the same as the original (storyline, character persona.... etc wise).

But as Spira asked, why don't you explain how Tetsuya Nomura would ruin it (and/or how he ruined the sequel - which was not really that bad when you compare it to other games and/or movies) when he worked on the original?
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care to explain how he 'ruined the sequel'?
I will explain.

After I found out about the movie about six months before it came out, I shook in excitement for it. It had beautiful landscapes and scenery, familiar characters in stunning detail, and the return of Sephiroth. I was expecting a plot to move me emotionally like every other Final Fantasy.

When it came out, it became apparant about thirty minutes into the movie that all it was was fighting. I was watching a movie with a plot that was forgotten over the long action sequences and probably would have had me turning it off if it wasn't for me liking Final Fantasy VII.

I can tell by the music and the actions in the last scene with a very short monologue from Cloud that it was supposed to be dramatic, but it was laughably pathetic. What Cloud said had nothing to do with his self-conflict in the film. And a bunch of people are being Baptized to cure some disease that wasn't explained all too well in a way that I didn't understand it untill I watched it again.

At the end of the credits I see "Director Tetsuya Nomura" and I say, "Oh crap. The KINGDOM HEARTS director did this? No wonder it sucked."
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When it came out, it became apparant about thirty minutes into the movie that all it was was fighting. I was watching a movie with a plot that was forgotten over the long action sequences and probably would have had me turning it off if it wasn't for me liking Final Fantasy VII.

I can tell by the music and the actions in the last scene with a very short monologue from Cloud that it was supposed to be dramatic, but it was laughably pathetic. What Cloud said had nothing to do with his self-conflict in the film. And a bunch of people are being Baptized to cure some disease that wasn't explained all too well in a way that I didn't understand it untill I watched it again.

At the end of the credits I see "Director Tetsuya Nomura" and I say, "Oh crap. The KINGDOM HEARTS director did this? No wonder it sucked."
It was not all fighting as Nomura also oversaw the Final Fantasy VII novels (which were released round about the same time the Advent Children was) which cover information about the orphans', the Geostigma Disease among other things which were also quoted in another Final Fantasy VII Ultimania, sadly though the novels have so far only been released in Japan but some sites have translated it for those who thought the Advent Children was the only "sequel" and thought it was only fighting and no storyline - oh and they were not being baptized - they were being healed, think of the water as a good old Mega Elixer created by Aerith/Aeris.

Advent Children makes more sense with the novels and other games (also including the Last Order episode).

*Shrugs* But it is your opinion but I must say I disagree with you due to the novels and such.
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I will explain.

After I found out about the movie about six months before it came out, I shook in excitement for it. It had beautiful landscapes and scenery, familiar characters in stunning detail, and the return of Sephiroth. I was expecting a plot to move me emotionally like every other Final Fantasy.

When it came out, it became apparant about thirty minutes into the movie that all it was was fighting. I was watching a movie with a plot that was forgotten over the long action sequences and probably would have had me turning it off if it wasn't for me liking Final Fantasy VII.

I can tell by the music and the actions in the last scene with a very short monologue from Cloud that it was supposed to be dramatic, but it was laughably pathetic. What Cloud said had nothing to do with his self-conflict in the film. And a bunch of people are being Baptized to cure some disease that wasn't explained all too well in a way that I didn't understand it untill I watched it again.

At the end of the credits I see "Director Tetsuya Nomura" and I say, "Oh crap. The KINGDOM HEARTS director did this? No wonder it sucked."

You were obviously overhyped with high expectations to what the film would deliver, as clearly a film will not be able to carry as much content, or build up the characters/evolve them in the way a 50+ hour game could - even if only 40% of that is story content). The math is rather simple. Over 20 hours of development compared to less than 2. No matter how good the development in the movie was, it would not have matched up to the game because of the gradual transitioning available to a stretched out game compared to a short film. Then again, sometimes the impact is lost when you stretch out a game too much, and the essence can be retained from a short movie from constant reminder within a short time span. Both are different story-telling devices, and you cannot expect them to have the same effect.

True, the film is different from other commercial films because it was created with the FF7 fans in mind - hence giving a good deal of fan-service, but at the same time trying not to deviate so much from the telling of a story. Its execution would be something like pseudo-anime style, and its definitely not all fighting, nor really about some baptism. It does focus on Cloud's inner conflict. If you missed it, you should watch it again - but its very obvious.

Anyway, if knowing just the background of the director is enough to justify to you that the film sucked, then seriously, thats very much a shallow and immature approach to the entire issue. The Director may call the shots, but theres alot more to the success of a movie (or game for that matter) than the execution of the story, script, visuals, etc. Not everything is done by Nomura alone, and even the marketing team and the continuity directors (in the case of this compilation) need to play their important roles in building up the success of the movie.

You may be entitled to your opinion, but it doesn't mean other's cant be critical of it when its baseless, immature and irrational.
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To the most Final Fantasy savvy, it would be obvious to us that "Of course the end of Crisis Core will link into Final Fantasy VII" due to the fact that its the prequel of the legendary game.


That hasnt stopped rumours of a remake of FFVII making the news today. According to PSXtreme, a Gamefaqs walkthrough writer known as Kouli came across images of the end of Crisis Core- some of which contain images of the original intro of FFVII, which look quite similar to the much talked about tech demo which surfaced in 2005. The cutscene ends with To be continued in Final Fantasy VII when Cloud steps off the train.

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I have a question.will there be a FFVII Remake on PS3?I heard a lot of talk that there should be a remake but squarenix stoped that project.damn it was a bad move for squeresoft to join together with enix.Now there are only a few games that I can enjoy from squarenix.I can only hope hat FFXIII will have a better batle system than FFXII couse that system realy wasn't a great option.
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I have a question.will there be a FFVII Remake on PS3?I heard a lot of talk that there should be a remake but squarenix stoped that project.damn it was a bad move for squeresoft to join together with enix.Now there are only a few games that I can enjoy from squarenix.I can only hope hat FFXIII will have a better batle system than FFXII couse that system realy wasn't a great option.
Have you read through this thread at all?

1) As far as anyone knows, Square isn't working on a remake at this time, though they haven't outright said they'll never do it. Thus, the rumor keeps popping up periodically. Rest assured that if SE ever announces officially that they're remaking FFVII, it will be the top new story on every FF site on earth within minutes.

2) How does their merge with Enix effect your enjoyment of the games? The same people are still working on the FF games (hell, Nomura's had at least a small part to play in damn near every FF they've put out since VII). It's not Enix's fault that Square is running out of original material (and did you happen to play DQVIII? That was all Enix...).

3) Given that the KH team is working on FFXIII, I'd be willing to bet the battle system will be a lot like the KH battle system. And personally, I liked the XII system. Random encounters have always sucked.
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On a slightly different slant, news today regarding FFVII remake rumours:
Final Fantasy VII Announcement Rumor

Something called Endless Crisis Final Fantasy VII- could just be another spinoff..xD
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They will probobly, at some point, make a new Final Fantasy VII. But I hope that day is delayed as soon as possible. Because if they mess it up, they ruin the game. If they do that...then i'll go terrorist on their HQ.
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