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Old 12-23-2007, 05:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Dissidia: Gameplay and Characters unvieled

IGN has had their hands at Final Fantasy: Dissidia at Tokyo's Jump Festa. Amongst their 20 minutes of hands-on gaming, they were able to experience fights and view characters.

Fighting has been described as neither 2D or 3D fighting, but both:

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"The game has all the control options required for both free-roaming 3D combat and fixed one-on-one fighting style combat. You can lock on to your enemy with a press of the L trigger, jump and double jump with X, and guard and evade with the R trigger. Camera controls are up on the D-pad, making it a bit unrealistic for use during a fight, but I didn't have too many problems with camera angles once I was locked into my opponent"

"There's a major twist in how you go about actually damaging your opponent. You have two attack buttons. Pressing circle in combination with the analogue stick unleashes one form of attack. But rather than draining your opponent's HP, it drains your opponent's "Brave," which is just Squenix-speak for attack power. To deal actual damage to your opponent's HP, you use the square button, again in combination with analogue stick motions. The resulting physical attacks eat up the Brave that you've just stolen.

The tug of war between Brave appears to be central to combat. The game rewards you with massive amounts of Brave when you manage to make your opponent's Brave meter drain down to zero, an event called a "Brave Break." The more Brave you have, the more damage your attacks do."
In addition, there are also semi-destructible environments, blown apart by ultimate attacks. And most importantly, with the use of the Triangle Button, characters can perform many different gravity-defying acrobatic abilities that rival those displayed in the Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children movie.

IGN has seen CGI footage, separate to the playable demo, of Final Fantasy X's Blitzball superstar, Tidus, and Final Fantasy VII's infamous villain, Sephiroth, exchanging blows while running up cliff faces.

Artwork displayed in the booth also suggests a particular Judge from the Ivalice series could appear, possibly from Final Fantasy XII?

You can read the full report of the experience here:
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((Thanks RedCloud, I'll see what I can do to get some videos, artwork and screenshots for this thread)).

Ah, so there has been minor changes to the gameplay. Originally it was intended that some enviroments could be fully destroyed during normal attacks against the enemy but it is interesting to hear that they have changed it.

It looks like I indeed will be needing to buy a PSP for this game after all.

(Also, that Judge is possibly Ffamran / Balthier otherwise it may be Basch or even Noah fon Ronsenburg).
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I was actually wondering if they got confused with Garland, seeing how he has that armour on. And seeing how I heard they were only going up to 10. I'm guessing it is Gabranth.

Do you know how to do thumbnails? This picture is a bit big.
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I was actually wondering if they got confused with Garland, seeing how he has that armour on. And seeing how I heard they were only going up to 10. I'm guessing it is Gabranth.

Do you know how to do thumbnails? This picture is a bit big.
True, a lot of the websites have gotten confused with Garland's updated armor but if it is the original Judge Magister Gabranth (Noah fon Ronsenburg) then I will be extremely happy but there is still the possibility of it being Fframran due to the factors of him being a former Judge and making a cameo appearence in The War of the Lions.

Well Nomura personally wants more characters in the game but Yusuke has been wanting characters changed to draw in my players to the game itself so it may have characters from XII in it due to XII's popularity among many newer and older Final Fantasy gamers.

[EDIT] Oh and here is an image showing Ultimecia, continuing on in the line-up, in front of her (to her right, in other words the viewer's left) in the line is Final Fantasy IX antagonist Kuja.

And finally they are still deciding about whether or not they should include more characters from the original Final Fantasy series (I.E. Final Fantasy to Final Fantasy VI in terms of that label).

Also I have some music tracks that were re-released on the Final Fantasy Dissidia Square-Enix Party 2007 bonus disc, this includes the Overture, (Secret) and another song which I can upload, more should be released shortly as well as more character designs, background/area location designs and a new trailer should be publicly released soon if it is not delayed.

((Hm, you could either resize it via ImageShack or you could always drop it in as a URL)).
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True, a lot of the websites have gotten confused with Garland's updated armor but if it is the original Judge Magister Gabranth (Noah fon Ronsenburg) then I will be extremely happy but there is still the possibility of it being Fframran due to the factors of him being a former Judge and making a cameo appearence in The War of the Lions.

Well Nomura personally wants more characters in the game but Yusuke has been wanting characters changed to draw in my players to the game itself so it may have characters from XII in it due to XII's popularity among many newer and older Final Fantasy gamers.

((Hm, you could either resize it via ImageShack or you could always drop it in as a URL)).
I personally think if they have time, they should add in at least 1 or 2 more characters from the latest series like 6, 7, 8 and 10 even. I'd like to see maybe Sabin, Vincent, Tifa, Seifer and Auron. And why not Vaan? I would have thought Seifer be the natural opponent to Squall, but I guess the bad guys in this are all Emperors and the sort. Can't wait to see Sephiroth in action.

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I personally think if they have time, they should add in at least 1 or 2 more characters from the latest series like 6, 7, 8 and 10 even. I'd like to see maybe Sabin, Vincent, Tifa, Seifer and Auron. And why not Vaan? I would have thought Seifer be the natural opponent to Squall, but I guess the bad guys in this are all Emperors and the sort. Can't wait to see Sephiroth in action.

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True, that is what Nomura is trying to move towards whilst bringing more popularity to the original series (as it seems many of the new gamers think that the series started with Final Fantasy VII...).

An many people didn't see Vaan as the true protagonist (adding to the in-game claims by Fframran / Balthier of being "The leading man") in Final Fantasy XII, though the protagonist was originally intended to be Basch fon Ronsenburg until that was changed too so it is possible for one of the Judge Gabranths' to be in the game.

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Still, Vaan is at the top of the Party, so that would make him the leader. ;P I can see how the story revolves more around Ashe and Bash, and Balthier's past. But the game ventured with Vaan's discoveries of Ivalice. But it's not certain if they would make it.

Vincent, I would love to see of course, because we've seen only a small taste of the abilities he could perform in DoC, and we know he has a lot more potential, and with a game like this it could be the place to show it off like in the movie. And Tifa would probably be next in line, or even before Vincent.

Nobody else from FF9 would really fit in, maybe Beatrix, but other than that...

Umm, on a side note, I was away for 2 hours, and when I came back, the whole forum changed...and Pesky Yuna, you are now Lady Lamont? Have I stepped into a Time Warp or another dimension?

EDIT: Look at Firion, and compare that to his old outfit, and then compare it to Leon.



What is going on? The Forum just changed completely, AGAIN as I clicked reload. What is going on? Change it back to the one before.
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Yeah, whats up with firions new outfit? It looks like Leons with his head photoshoped in -._.-
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Well you see, Firion's new outfit was the original design that Amano had made for him. There were at least twelve other designs which were eventually changed due to votes around the Development Divisions' and Amano originally intended Leon's outfit to be Firion's original outfit hence the change, as well as Garland's new outfit was originally intended to be the actual outfit but due to the graphical quality and/or memory space required the more simplistic designs were chosen whilst the rest were cataloged within Amano's office for possible reuse at another time and/or another project.

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When they mean the gameplay is 2D/3D, do they mean like everything looks 3D, but the 3D characters are bound to a 2D playing area?

Y'know, like the minigames in Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal where you played as Qwark? (Has anyone else here played that? Or does everyone here just spend every hour of gaming time on Final Fantasy?)
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When they mean the gameplay is 2D/3D, do they mean like everything looks 3D, but the 3D characters are bound to a 2D playing area?

Y'know, like the minigames in Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal where you played as Qwark? (Has anyone else here played that? Or does everyone here just spend every hour of gaming time on Final Fantasy?)
No that is incorrect. It basically means that the characters and/or backgrounds are more or less like a cartoon-y 2D appearence, but are actually rendered as 3D (take Kingdom Hearts or even Ehrgeiz: God Bless the Ring for example of previous Square 2D/3D Games), there is also the possibility of a manga or anime being released for Dissidia - this is currently under discussion.

Basically, your idea of it's gameplay is incorrect due to the factor of some objects within the areas / battle areas themselves are 3D and destroyable. 2D Is generally the ideals of cartoon styling and 3D is generally the ideals of realism so it is a combination game basically.
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No that is incorrect. It basically means that the characters and/or backgrounds are more or less like a cartoon-y 2D appearence, but are actually rendered as 3D (take Kingdom Hearts or even Ehrgeiz: God Bless the Ring for example of previous Square 2D/3D Games), there is also the possibility of a manga or anime being released for Dissidia - this is currently under discussion.

Basically, your idea of it's gameplay is incorrect due to the factor of some objects within the areas / battle areas themselves are 3D and destroyable. 2D Is generally the ideals of cartoon styling and 3D is generally the ideals of realism so it is a combination game basically.
Actually, it refers to 2D fighting, being 2D pane with side on screen, and 3D being full 3D camera. So they mean it is a mixture of both that makes it look awesome. So there are instance of both side on and full 3D camera angles.
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Actually, it refers to 2D fighting, being 2D pane with side on screen, and 3D being full 3D camera. So they mean it is a mixture of both that makes it look awesome. So there are instance of both side on and full 3D camera angles.
That's true, and the previous 2D Fighters have been cartoon-y, I was putting that into a term which would explain it more simplistically (sorry, just used to using more simplistic terms whilst trying to explain things to people whilst rendering examples).

I know, I have seen the gameplay from it and am currently looking in my laptop for videos I have gotten of it.
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I hope the fighting isn't too shallow, if you know what I mean. I good fighting game should have you learning how to fight for a while, and you continue to get better, so it should be really hard to start with and then you gain experience.

I'm guessing they'll have at least 5 hidden characters by the end of development, hopefully: Vincent, Tifa, Seifer, Auron. They are the ones I am really hoping for.
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I hope the fighting isn't too shallow, if you know what I mean. I good fighting game should have you learning how to fight for a while, and you continue to get better, so it should be really hard to start with and then you gain experience.

I'm guessing they'll have at least 5 hidden characters by the end of development, hopefully: Vincent, Tifa, Seifer, Auron. They are the ones I am really hoping for.
It shouldn't be too easy as it should have some great difficulty settings plus some staff complained whilst they were versing Garland when playing as the Warrior of Light. *Laughs*

Hopefully they will be as that would force me more into buying it.
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seems abit early to tell. Im just glad they've placed more attention on Ultimecia from VIII so far because she was one of the least (personally) fleshed out final villians of any FF series. and amongst those like her, the one with the most potential
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Sheesh, I say something and Lady Lamont and Red Cloud get into a deep debate about it...

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What debate? You being silly boy.

It looks like us 3 and Garland are the only ones you talk on these forums.
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