New Final Fantasy XIII trailer from E3

Spira · 07-15-2008, 10:08 AM

Since I didn't see this posted here yet...

A new FFXIII trailer from E3 is out.
It features the new girl character, Carbuncle, Siren, Ifrit, as well as a fair bit of old footage from the previous trailers. The world of Pulse really looks lush and expansive. Quite nice.

A shocker here, is that FFXIII will hit the US and Europe as a PS3 & XBox360 game, instead of being only PS3 exclusive (but it will remain this way in Japan)

Trailers can be found at Gametrailers here

Japanese version of the trailer, slightly higher quality. Direct video.
Gametrailers.com - Final Fantasy XIII - E3 2008: Japanese Trailer

E3 version. English text, slightly lower quality cos its taken by cam i think. You can hear the people clapping at the end and the camera flashes along the way.
Gametrailers.com - Final Fantasy XIII - E3 2008: MS Press Conference Cam Trailer

Enjoy.

Lady Lamont · 07-15-2008, 10:17 AM

((I would have posted it earlier, was extremely enraged due to Wada and other staff member's statements of the game being PlayStation 3 Exclusive OUTSIDE of Japan too with other things being announced at the same time today)).

Personally I still think that XIII looks and resembles the old design for Final Fantasy X* but re-worked in ways. Overall it looks good but I wish they would have brought up new footage (majority of the stuff shown in that trailer itself was the exact same from the Closed Theatre showing).

But thank you for posting it Spira.

((* For those who didn't know: the old design for Final Fantasy X was fairly like the current design for Final Fantasy X - full rendered landscape, with no loading screens, online capabilities and more which was then changed to what we got in the final production, there is still a Beta video of it floating around in addition to the same idea but older which was shown of Final Fantasy VI)).

- This may turn into a ramble and/or rant, I'll try to keep it short by making the font smaller for those who will obviously dislike the fact that I dislike the X-Box, X-Box 360 and Microsoft overall, then just scroll right past it please as I would prefer not to get into any arguments over it -

Although I do think from what I've seen and heard around here in Australia, the prices are dropping on that damned brick ((I have an extreme dislike and/or it can be called a hatred of that console and of it's producing company for quite a few reasons, BUT I am trying to keep this post as clean as I possibly can without sounding like Cid Highwind)) over here and from all of my friends' or people that have bought it have had issues with it, it's lack of games (genre and game library overall) - basically, I would have preferred a different console in comparison as the brick isn't very popular over here from what I've seen (I'm not saying it's not popular, I'm just stating what I've seen and heard) - not even my Brick-box fan friends will even buy the damn thing yet they sit around my house and literally claw my screen demanding a Final Fantasy game on the "Old" brick-box.

With that and it not being popular in Japan and Australia's close proximity it makes me wonder as the countries are both located in the area known as "Australasia" and now that we are starting to do direct imports on consoles, games... etc due to the demand here and the standardization of HD-Televisions, many of which support the NTSC format (which is the standard video format used by America, Japan in comparison to what Europe and Australia generally use - PAL)... I wonder if we'll get the brick-box release here or not. I'd prefer to not get it as overall the PlayStation 3, Wii and handheld consoles are more popular here - as is the case in Japan but also as a fact, Australia has been reported to soon be getting priority shipping in comparison to our normal shipping (basically, Australia is the ass of the gaming world in receiving dates on games or consoles due to things being delayed, parts being required, shipments being required in England or America so we tend to get games and consoles more than six months later than the actual European release) as from what some company ratings have said - Australia has gone past America in regions of the video game industry and due to the high demand a better priority would be placed on the actual country meaning if it were to actually happen it wouldn't be the Americans' spoiling the games for us, it would actually be vice-versa.

In short, from my point of view it seems sort of redundant to have a brick-box release when the prices on that particular console seem to be constantly going down due to the lack of popularity in various countries and would have been better suited to other consoles even though their hardware standards may not have had the capabilities but after seeing Square's work on earlier designs which pushed older consoles to their limits - I would have been and still am confident that they would have been able to pull it off.
(I nagged the guy's at EB Games and Game (Formerly known as The Games Wizards) stores to give me details to make sure the information was correct and what I have posted is based on what they have provided).

BUT to the extent there are some places and/or countries in which the brick-box is the most popular console(s) for various reasons so it is understandable on those terms for it's release. However my only issue is really what I have already said before - from what I've seen other consoles are more popular / popular consoles plus a good game tends to equal a better profit but I assume that by this dual-console release that this would have been countered...

And I think that's all I can currently think of at the moment. Best kept small.

danixhap · 07-15-2008, 11:57 AM

thanks for the links, and when I read the news the other day I was surprised and really I don't know what to say, final always has been in one console and I hope that the difference between both systems won't affect the final product.

Lady Lamont · 07-15-2008, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by danixhap

thanks for the links, and when I read the news the other day I was surprised and really I don't know what to say, final always has been in one console and I hope that the difference between both systems won't affect the final product.

Actually the series has been ported to almost every console. The only Final Fantasy to really appear on the brick has been Final Fantasy XI and/or it's extensions. However, the main amount of issues that fans are having with it is that Wada and Marketing staff all announced that XIII was going to be a PlayStation 3 Exclusive and this press-release counters their repeated earlier releases.

Spira · 07-16-2008, 04:57 PM

its apparently going to be PS3 only in japan and then also available on xbox 360 elsewhere. It helps microsoft less than it helps Square Enix, because they're not making it Xbox release in Japan, which is where the Xbox's sales is failing, and the PS3 is still doing fairly well.

I don't see why SE had to pander to US audiences quoting the whole 'increased installed base' as an excuse because FFXIII would have been reason enough to get a PS3, and they're not anywhere near breakeven or loss making at this point in their company.

This gets me slightly peeved because many of their other titles are console exclusive, and they often end up on the inferior console.. (FF3 and 4 on the DS instead of PSP).. and there are some games that remain on 1 platform and haven't seen US releases (Before Crisis, DoC: Lost Episode for mobile phones of all things)

but ultimately, even with it being on Xbox and PS3, the PS3 version will be superior.. at least in the technical hardware sense. The PS3 is a stronger device, and Blu Ray is superior to DVD in both storage size and support for high definition.

I already bought my PS3 for FFXIII last year, so I'm going to stick to it...

vector · 07-16-2008, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Spira

I don't see why SE had to pander to US audiences quoting the whole 'increased installed base' as an excuse because FFXIII would have been reason enough to get a PS3, and they're not anywhere near breakeven or loss making at this point in their company.

This gets me slightly peeved because many of their other titles are console exclusive, and they often end up on the inferior console.. (FF3 and 4 on the DS instead of PSP).. and there are some games that remain on 1 platform and haven't seen US releases (Before Crisis, DoC: Lost Episode for mobile phones of all things)

but ultimately, even with it being on Xbox and PS3, the PS3 version will be superior.. at least in the technical hardware sense. The PS3 is a stronger device, and Blu Ray is superior to DVD in both storage size and support for high definition.

I already bought my PS3 for FFXIII last year, so I'm going to stick to it...

Big misconception, have you looked at titles like Resident Evil 5? what makes you think the ps3 is any more technical capable than the xbox360? more GFLOPs? that would only prove it's more specialized. Blu-ray does indeed hold more data but more discs for the 360 version will solve that, it never stopped Square with FFs on the PS1, alternatively they could install on the HDD and do away with discs altogether.

I for one am glad is coming to the 360, I don't own any of the new consoles yet but I've always owned all consoles before from all companies since the ps1 era. I can understand Square's reasoning, the 360 has sold more than the ps3 in NA by more than a 3:1 ratio, and SE has been talking for a long time on expanding their horizons. This is a win-win situation since ps3 owners do not lose anything, and more players can now enjoy this game. The xbox360 is $100 cheaper in NA and with the economy as bad as it is, I would be inclined to get it over the ps3 if I had to buy one right now, I'm sure I'm not the only one. Apart from that, the 360 has a nice line-up of games like Star Ocean 4 which I think looks phenomenal, Infinite Undiscovery, Lost Odyssey, Fable 2 and so on that look like great games. More ways to enjoy FF is always good, wouldn't you say?

Lady Lamont · 07-16-2008, 10:37 PM

However the console is still doing badly in so many countries which can be taken into account which is basically what Spira was referring to and other reasons which I can agree to - which has been shown by information I picked up before I posted in this topic. It is a good idea to have more ways to enjoy the series, however the only issue I have is with their in-company talks and/or parties and the staff members stating that outside of Japan it would have been PS3 exclusive - only for this to change and even with the brick being released earlier over here (in Australia), it still hasn't picked up and after talking to some friends in the UK it hasn't picked up over their either.

If I had to buy one of the consoles now, I'd still go with the PS3 due to the amount of bad-hardware/glitchy consoles over here (not just the pre-ordered ones but more than half of the bricks' over here just will not work properly at all) and other than the current Patch/Firmware issue on the PS3 (the update that crashed (also known as "Bricked") many consoles) I have not heard of any issues with the console - even with the limited amount of the first releases we received (apparently, ours cannot read Blu-Ray properly because "America needed parts" *Rolls eyes* but they still do play Blu-Ray even though we were told they wouldn't) over here. But that is just my opinion.

But I am glad that an interview with Kitase and Hashimoto revealed that they are still planning on having Versus XIII still a world-wide PS3 Exclusive, but with their recent announcement of XIII being multi-platform... (It wouldn't hurt them to have Star Ocean IV: The Last Hope on PS3 even though they have said that they have no plans for it, which is what they said about XIII being on the brick.... )

But they refused to say why they chose to end the exclusive contract in exchange for a multi-platform contract. From the looks and sounds of it Hashimoto said that their relationship with Microsoft was just fairly recent but they are not announcing if it will feature any online capabilities as that would just put a damper on gamers and/or fans in the whole if in the end they changed their minds at the last minute and they would not want another Final Fantasy X issue.

[Also, why I call the X-Box and X-Box 360 console "the Brick" or the "BoS" is only a pure reference to the many issues and glitched versions we have received over here and other complaints I have heard or seen about it in actual action which has influenced me not to buy either of the dammed things.]

jin777 · 07-16-2008, 10:45 PM

anyone else think square enix might dissapoint us again?

Lady Lamont · 07-16-2008, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jin777

anyone else think square enix might dissapoint us again?

It's a possibility, as it just seems like a last minute decision to send XIII multi-platform.

Besides, if they announce some things now they'll regret it later if they suddenly change their minds yet again (like the aforementioned Final Fantasy X issue).

Blitzballer · 07-17-2008, 12:53 AM

With Square Enix having a poor financial year, i suppose it was inevitable- plus the fact that Sony couldnt hold onto the exclusivity rights- the Wii wasnt an option, so im sure the big bucks from Microsoft was an easy option to make FFXIII multiplatform.

I wouldnt be surprised if Versus XIII somewhere down the line follows suit.

Garland · 07-17-2008, 01:53 AM

But... No... they can't cave. The X-box sucks. I've got so many hardware complaints from it in my country. You know what, even if it's 100 dollars cheaper, i'm still getting the PS3, even if im poor and they're expanding their franchise. Soul Calibur with Darth Vader is 1000 times more badass than Yoda!

Lady Lamont · 07-17-2008, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garland

But... No... they can't cave. The X-box sucks. I've got so many hardware complaints from it in my country. You know what, even if it's 100 dollars cheaper, i'm still getting the PS3, even if im poor and they're expanding their franchise. Soul Calibur with Darth Vader is 1000 times more badass than Yoda!

I have to agree with you on that Garland.

Blitzballer · 07-17-2008, 06:44 AM

Plain and simple; it was about money- not about reaching wider audiences or some crap like that.

Sony surely realised that FFXIII would have brought them in some serious cash- why they didnt splash the cash and solidify their rights on exclusivity is only a matter for them to dwell on.

Im also sure quite a lot of people bought the PS3 for FFXIII- they must be pretty angry at this.

Interesting to note shares for Square Enix went up after the FFXIII going to Xbox 360--but they might have lost some fans.

Spira · 07-17-2008, 08:52 AM

evidently Sony shareholders in Square Enix were sleeping when they held the meeting to rule the non-exclusivity issue.. lol j/k.

I'm a Sony fanboy.. and I'm just upset that Sony has been losing many exclusives.. I love FF too so I was hoping that XIII would be exclusive too.
I still think the 360 is bs, what with its RRoDs and all.. but I don't think this was totally unexpected.
Ever since Microsoft somewhat put its foot in Square Enix's door (when FFXI was released for the 360) i think they have tried their best to coax SE into bringing some of its stronger new titles to the Xbox as well.
Its hard to walk out of a relationship like that, with FFXI being a MMORPG that would require continuous support on both sides...so I guess SE took the choice to make more profits and screw the old-school concept of console loyalty..
Then again, if they'd never switched to the PS for FFVII, they wouldn't be where they are today...

Blitzballer · 07-17-2008, 09:04 AM

Ill make a premonition.

FFVII remake for the xbox 360.

You heard it here first.

Lady Lamont · 07-17-2008, 09:10 AM

Spira: I know what you mean, somewhat of a fangirl myself.

Blitzballer: If that ever happens, I am SO killing Moriya and whatever other SE guys I can contact (Moriya won't reply to my angry messages over the XIII contract).

Garland · 07-18-2008, 01:06 PM

Well, Versus XIII is still an exclusive, right???

RedCloud · 07-18-2008, 11:02 PM

It's for the Xbox 360 now is it? I hate Microsoft too. The games on it doesn't interest me, and the only GOOD thing Microsoft have done in my opinion is Windows, but even that I've been angry at constantly.

Why would they choose to do multiplatform. If they were worried about money, every Final Fantasy fan I know is getting the PS3 JUST for XIII and Versus XIII. I hope this doesn't damage what we'll get in the game. Because console exclusive games are nearly always better than multiplatform because they don't have to worry about restrictions produced by either.

And does this mean Final Fantasy XIII won't be any bigger than 4.7GB or whatever a DVD holds because of the now Xbox 360 release?

It's just a shame. They're just not producing games as good as they did when FF used to be PS1 exclusive. 7 - 9 were classics, X was great, XII was great but it let down in some areas. I'm sort of sick of them doing sequals and remakes all over the place, I want some new direct titles.

As to a comment before, the DS isn't a minor console, Nintendo lead the way in handheld consoles. I used to hate PSPs, but when I got one I pretty much took it to bed with me and tucked it in. I can't wait for Dissidia now.

Lady Lamont · 07-19-2008, 01:36 AM

Garland: Versus XIII is stated by the main directors - Kitase and Hashimoto stated it would be exclusive, Kitase also stated that XIII will and should be out in 2009 before they start the global localization (meaning translations, formatting, editing and shipment). They are also changing the size of the game, not to make it smaller - instead they are branching it out to multiple DVD discs whereas only one or two Blu-Ray discs (I personally hope that some of the people who get the Brick's version miss out on a disc or two - it's actually happened in some of the editions of Final Fantasy XI or other games released onto the PC system by SquareSoft/Square-Enix by accident and occasionally by Game Store staff members removing them. Heheheheh. Suckers).

RedCloud: Trust me, if I had fifty cents for every time any Microsoft product I've had or have currently has screwed up I would basically be rich - much hate. I have to agree about the majority of exclusive games being better because generally the production team/development divisions are more focused on it instead of having to reprogram the damn thing to work on another console. And you kinda forgot the old missed VI on PSX, it sucked that they didn't release the fully 3D Version of it instead of that updated port.

And exactly about the DS/DS Lite, hell the Wii is the the best selling console in America right now as well as what Wada stated before - Handheld consoles are leading the market so there will be more releases from us for their range in the future.

I doubt Nomura is happy about this, he personally doesn't like the Brick. He prefers the PlayStation/Sony system and stated that the PlayStation 3 gave him more artistic freedom among other things which is why he wanted the "main" games in the Fabula Nova Crystallis series to be exclusive to the PlayStation 3 and not the Brick. I bet this turnabout has turned out like some of the company's staff disagreements (which escalate pretty quickly and easily) during production....

RedCloud · 07-19-2008, 05:12 AM

I hope Xbox 360 owners get a lesser version of XIII. heh heh heh. Honestly, everybody I know who is getting a PS3 for a game, that game just happens to be XIII or Versus XIII. They could have done just as well with PS3 exclusive.

Their reasoning for not having 360 release in Japan is a little obvious, but I just don't want it on the 360 out of spite mostly, and the fact that it might A: Push production time back B: Reduce XIII's potential and C: Make 360 owners happy, lol.

07-15-2008, 10:08 AM	#1 (permalink)
Spira Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Singapore Age: 23 Posts: 208 Rep Power: 4	New Final Fantasy XIII trailer from E3 Since I didn't see this posted here yet... A new FFXIII trailer from E3 is out. It features the new girl character, Carbuncle, Siren, Ifrit, as well as a fair bit of old footage from the previous trailers. The world of Pulse really looks lush and expansive. Quite nice. A shocker here, is that FFXIII will hit the US and Europe as a PS3 & XBox360 game, instead of being only PS3 exclusive (but it will remain this way in Japan) Trailers can be found at Gametrailers here Japanese version of the trailer, slightly higher quality. Direct video. Gametrailers.com - Final Fantasy XIII - E3 2008: Japanese Trailer E3 version. English text, slightly lower quality cos its taken by cam i think. You can hear the people clapping at the end and the camera flashes along the way. Gametrailers.com - Final Fantasy XIII - E3 2008: MS Press Conference Cam Trailer Enjoy.

07-15-2008, 10:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
Lady Lamont Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia. Age: 16 Posts: 496 Rep Power: 4	Re: New Final Fantasy XIII trailer from E3 ((I would have posted it earlier, was extremely enraged due to Wada and other staff member's statements of the game being PlayStation 3 Exclusive OUTSIDE of Japan too with other things being announced at the same time today)). Personally I still think that XIII looks and resembles the old design for Final Fantasy X* but re-worked in ways. Overall it looks good but I wish they would have brought up new footage (majority of the stuff shown in that trailer itself was the exact same from the Closed Theatre showing). But thank you for posting it Spira. ((* For those who didn't know: the old design for Final Fantasy X was fairly like the current design for Final Fantasy X - full rendered landscape, with no loading screens, online capabilities and more which was then changed to what we got in the final production, there is still a Beta video of it floating around in addition to the same idea but older which was shown of Final Fantasy VI)). - This may turn into a ramble and/or rant, I'll try to keep it short by making the font smaller for those who will obviously dislike the fact that I dislike the X-Box, X-Box 360 and Microsoft overall, then just scroll right past it please as I would prefer not to get into any arguments over it - Although I do think from what I've seen and heard around here in Australia, the prices are dropping on that damned brick ((I have an extreme dislike and/or it can be called a hatred of that console and of it's producing company for quite a few reasons, BUT I am trying to keep this post as clean as I possibly can without sounding like Cid Highwind)) over here and from all of my friends' or people that have bought it have had issues with it, it's lack of games (genre and game library overall) - basically, I would have preferred a different console in comparison as the brick isn't very popular over here from what I've seen (I'm not saying it's not popular, I'm just stating what I've seen and heard) - not even my Brick-box fan friends will even buy the damn thing yet they sit around my house and literally claw my screen demanding a Final Fantasy game on the "Old" brick-box. With that and it not being popular in Japan and Australia's close proximity it makes me wonder as the countries are both located in the area known as "Australasia" and now that we are starting to do direct imports on consoles, games... etc due to the demand here and the standardization of HD-Televisions, many of which support the NTSC format (which is the standard video format used by America, Japan in comparison to what Europe and Australia generally use - PAL)... I wonder if we'll get the brick-box release here or not. I'd prefer to not get it as overall the PlayStation 3, Wii and handheld consoles are more popular here - as is the case in Japan but also as a fact, Australia has been reported to soon be getting priority shipping in comparison to our normal shipping (basically, Australia is the ass of the gaming world in receiving dates on games or consoles due to things being delayed, parts being required, shipments being required in England or America so we tend to get games and consoles more than six months later than the actual European release) as from what some company ratings have said - Australia has gone past America in regions of the video game industry and due to the high demand a better priority would be placed on the actual country meaning if it were to actually happen it wouldn't be the Americans' spoiling the games for us, it would actually be vice-versa. In short, from my point of view it seems sort of redundant to have a brick-box release when the prices on that particular console seem to be constantly going down due to the lack of popularity in various countries and would have been better suited to other consoles even though their hardware standards may not have had the capabilities but after seeing Square's work on earlier designs which pushed older consoles to their limits - I would have been and still am confident that they would have been able to pull it off. (I nagged the guy's at EB Games and Game (Formerly known as The Games Wizards) stores to give me details to make sure the information was correct and what I have posted is based on what they have provided). BUT to the extent there are some places and/or countries in which the brick-box is the most popular console(s) for various reasons so it is understandable on those terms for it's release. However my only issue is really what I have already said before - from what I've seen other consoles are more popular / popular consoles plus a good game tends to equal a better profit but I assume that by this dual-console release that this would have been countered... And I think that's all I can currently think of at the moment. Best kept small. __________________ "I am but a mere butler..." Damn SE having good manga... Last edited by Lady Lamont : 07-15-2008 at 10:40 AM.

07-15-2008, 11:57 AM	#3 (permalink)
danixhap Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Age: 23 Posts: 30 Rep Power: 4	Re: New Final Fantasy XIII trailer from E3 thanks for the links, and when I read the news the other day I was surprised and really I don't know what to say, final always has been in one console and I hope that the difference between both systems won't affect the final product.

07-16-2008, 04:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
Spira Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Singapore Age: 23 Posts: 208 Rep Power: 4	Re: New Final Fantasy XIII trailer from E3 its apparently going to be PS3 only in japan and then also available on xbox 360 elsewhere. It helps microsoft less than it helps Square Enix, because they're not making it Xbox release in Japan, which is where the Xbox's sales is failing, and the PS3 is still doing fairly well. I don't see why SE had to pander to US audiences quoting the whole 'increased installed base' as an excuse because FFXIII would have been reason enough to get a PS3, and they're not anywhere near breakeven or loss making at this point in their company. This gets me slightly peeved because many of their other titles are console exclusive, and they often end up on the inferior console.. (FF3 and 4 on the DS instead of PSP).. and there are some games that remain on 1 platform and haven't seen US releases (Before Crisis, DoC: Lost Episode for mobile phones of all things) but ultimately, even with it being on Xbox and PS3, the PS3 version will be superior.. at least in the technical hardware sense. The PS3 is a stronger device, and Blu Ray is superior to DVD in both storage size and support for high definition. I already bought my PS3 for FFXIII last year, so I'm going to stick to it...

07-16-2008, 10:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
Lady Lamont Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia. Age: 16 Posts: 496 Rep Power: 4	Re: New Final Fantasy XIII trailer from E3 However the console is still doing badly in so many countries which can be taken into account which is basically what Spira was referring to and other reasons which I can agree to - which has been shown by information I picked up before I posted in this topic. It is a good idea to have more ways to enjoy the series, however the only issue I have is with their in-company talks and/or parties and the staff members stating that outside of Japan it would have been PS3 exclusive - only for this to change and even with the brick being released earlier over here (in Australia), it still hasn't picked up and after talking to some friends in the UK it hasn't picked up over their either. If I had to buy one of the consoles now, I'd still go with the PS3 due to the amount of bad-hardware/glitchy consoles over here (not just the pre-ordered ones but more than half of the bricks' over here just will not work properly at all) and other than the current Patch/Firmware issue on the PS3 (the update that crashed (also known as "Bricked") many consoles) I have not heard of any issues with the console - even with the limited amount of the first releases we received (apparently, ours cannot read Blu-Ray properly because "America needed parts" Rolls eyes but they still do play Blu-Ray even though we were told they wouldn't) over here. But that is just my opinion. But I am glad that an interview with Kitase and Hashimoto revealed that they are still planning on having Versus XIII still a world-wide PS3 Exclusive, but with their recent announcement of XIII being multi-platform... (It wouldn't hurt them to have Star Ocean IV: The Last Hope on PS3 even though they have said that they have no plans for it, which is what they said about XIII being on the brick.... ) But they refused to say why they chose to end the exclusive contract in exchange for a multi-platform contract. From the looks and sounds of it Hashimoto said that their relationship with Microsoft was just fairly recent but they are not announcing if it will feature any online capabilities as that would just put a damper on gamers and/or fans in the whole if in the end they changed their minds at the last minute and they would not want another Final Fantasy X issue. [Also, why I call the X-Box and X-Box 360 console "the Brick" or the "BoS" is only a pure reference to the many issues and glitched versions we have received over here and other complaints I have heard or seen about it in actual action which has influenced me not to buy either of the dammed things.] __________________ "I am but a mere butler..." Damn SE having good manga... Last edited by Lady Lamont : 07-16-2008 at 10:45 PM.

07-16-2008, 10:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
jin777 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: lazytown Age: 16 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 4	Re: New Final Fantasy XIII trailer from E3 anyone else think square enix might dissapoint us again?

07-17-2008, 01:53 AM	#11 (permalink)
Garland Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Teh Chaos Shrine Age: 18 Posts: 857 Rep Power: 10	Re: New Final Fantasy XIII trailer from E3 But... No... they can't cave. The X-box sucks. I've got so many hardware complaints from it in my country. You know what, even if it's 100 dollars cheaper, i'm still getting the PS3, even if im poor and they're expanding their franchise. Soul Calibur with Darth Vader is 1000 times more badass than Yoda! __________________ I, Garland, Will knock you all down!!

07-17-2008, 08:52 AM	#14 (permalink)
Spira Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Singapore Age: 23 Posts: 208 Rep Power: 4	Re: New Final Fantasy XIII trailer from E3 evidently Sony shareholders in Square Enix were sleeping when they held the meeting to rule the non-exclusivity issue.. lol j/k. I'm a Sony fanboy.. and I'm just upset that Sony has been losing many exclusives.. I love FF too so I was hoping that XIII would be exclusive too. I still think the 360 is bs, what with its RRoDs and all.. but I don't think this was totally unexpected. Ever since Microsoft somewhat put its foot in Square Enix's door (when FFXI was released for the 360) i think they have tried their best to coax SE into bringing some of its stronger new titles to the Xbox as well. Its hard to walk out of a relationship like that, with FFXI being a MMORPG that would require continuous support on both sides...so I guess SE took the choice to make more profits and screw the old-school concept of console loyalty.. Then again, if they'd never switched to the PS for FFVII, they wouldn't be where they are today...

07-17-2008, 09:10 AM	#16 (permalink)
Lady Lamont Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia. Age: 16 Posts: 496 Rep Power: 4	Re: New Final Fantasy XIII trailer from E3 Spira: I know what you mean, somewhat of a fangirl myself. Blitzballer: If that ever happens, I am SO killing Moriya and whatever other SE guys I can contact (Moriya won't reply to my angry messages over the XIII contract). __________________ "I am but a mere butler..." Damn SE having good manga...

07-18-2008, 01:06 PM	#17 (permalink)
Garland Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Teh Chaos Shrine Age: 18 Posts: 857 Rep Power: 10	Re: New Final Fantasy XIII trailer from E3 Well, Versus XIII is still an exclusive, right??? __________________ I, Garland, Will knock you all down!!

07-18-2008, 11:02 PM	#18 (permalink)
RedCloud Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Australia Age: 19 Posts: 378 Rep Power: 4	Re: New Final Fantasy XIII trailer from E3 It's for the Xbox 360 now is it? I hate Microsoft too. The games on it doesn't interest me, and the only GOOD thing Microsoft have done in my opinion is Windows, but even that I've been angry at constantly. Why would they choose to do multiplatform. If they were worried about money, every Final Fantasy fan I know is getting the PS3 JUST for XIII and Versus XIII. I hope this doesn't damage what we'll get in the game. Because console exclusive games are nearly always better than multiplatform because they don't have to worry about restrictions produced by either. And does this mean Final Fantasy XIII won't be any bigger than 4.7GB or whatever a DVD holds because of the now Xbox 360 release? It's just a shame. They're just not producing games as good as they did when FF used to be PS1 exclusive. 7 - 9 were classics, X was great, XII was great but it let down in some areas. I'm sort of sick of them doing sequals and remakes all over the place, I want some new direct titles. As to a comment before, the DS isn't a minor console, Nintendo lead the way in handheld consoles. I used to hate PSPs, but when I got one I pretty much took it to bed with me and tucked it in. I can't wait for Dissidia now. __________________

07-19-2008, 01:36 AM	#19 (permalink)
Lady Lamont Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia. Age: 16 Posts: 496 Rep Power: 4	Re: New Final Fantasy XIII trailer from E3 Garland: Versus XIII is stated by the main directors - Kitase and Hashimoto stated it would be exclusive, Kitase also stated that XIII will and should be out in 2009 before they start the global localization (meaning translations, formatting, editing and shipment). They are also changing the size of the game, not to make it smaller - instead they are branching it out to multiple DVD discs whereas only one or two Blu-Ray discs (I personally hope that some of the people who get the Brick's version miss out on a disc or two - it's actually happened in some of the editions of Final Fantasy XI or other games released onto the PC system by SquareSoft/Square-Enix by accident and occasionally by Game Store staff members removing them. Heheheheh. Suckers). RedCloud: Trust me, if I had fifty cents for every time any Microsoft product I've had or have currently has screwed up I would basically be rich - much hate. I have to agree about the majority of exclusive games being better because generally the production team/development divisions are more focused on it instead of having to reprogram the damn thing to work on another console. And you kinda forgot the old missed VI on PSX, it sucked that they didn't release the fully 3D Version of it instead of that updated port. And exactly about the DS/DS Lite, hell the Wii is the the best selling console in America right now as well as what Wada stated before - Handheld consoles are leading the market so there will be more releases from us for their range in the future. I doubt Nomura is happy about this, he personally doesn't like the Brick. He prefers the PlayStation/Sony system and stated that the PlayStation 3 gave him more artistic freedom among other things which is why he wanted the "main" games in the Fabula Nova Crystallis series to be exclusive to the PlayStation 3 and not the Brick. I bet this turnabout has turned out like some of the company's staff disagreements (which escalate pretty quickly and easily) during production.... __________________ "I am but a mere butler..." Damn SE having good manga...