SE Comment about FFVII Remake

[Lady Lamont]

At the Gamescom Con. VG247 asked Yoshi Kitase and Motomu Toriyama about the chance and/or overall possibility of a Final Fantasy VII remake.

To which their translated replied with:

" There’s not official project that’s up and running for a remake of Final Fantasy VII at this point. Both Toriyama-san and Kitase-san were involved in the development of the game, however, and it holds a special place in their hearts. They do talk about it on a personal level, like, ‘If we did it it would be like this or like that.’

So, they do talk about it, but there’s no official project yet. But there’s that PSN release that just came out, so if you could play that for the time being, it should be fun.
"

((... Which a few people will have noticed that I have said basically the exact same thing in the past on the topic)).

In other words, specifically my own rather impolite ones... "Shut up and play FFVII on the PSN in the meantime instead of whining about backwards compatibility or screaming "REMAKE NOW!!!"

Just thought it was worth making note of... YET AGAIN.

[Garland]

Sooooo.... does that mean the PSN version is going to be my last chance of playing the game or what?

[Lady Lamont]

Originally Posted by Garland

Sooooo.... does that mean the PSN version is going to be my last chance of playing the game or what?

It means that they're still thinking about it.
And that they basically say in the meantime - shut up and play the PSN version, instead of constantly screaming for a remake as they're really busy.

[Garland]

oh.
The PSN versions are essentially untouched versions of the originals right? No Spell check or anything like that? One thing that's keeping me away from the game is it's boched script and translation in today's standards.
I'm also fairly angry at how the PSN released the original tactics right after the PsP remake of the same game got out.

[Lady Lamont]

Originally Posted by Garland

oh.
The PSN versions are essentially untouched versions of the originals right? No Spell check or anything like that? One thing that's keeping me away from the game is it's boched script and translation in today's standards.
I'm also fairly angry at how the PSN released the original tactics right after the PsP remake of the same game got out.

It's the Final Fantasy VII International version, so it has had SOME slight fixes.

They may have fixed the mistakes, however I haven't checked myself.
But pretty much the screw-ups in the script are also well known enough and some of them aren't as bad as other games.

It's understandable, since they didn't really consider it as a PSP remake but more or less of a sequel to it.

[DuMbAsS]

Fanboys are crazy. They probably what a beautifully rendered version with translation corrections, add features, extra side quests, extended scenes, voiceovers, and everything else youcan think of to make something that was magnificent of its time even greater for today. Of which it will become obsolete to the release of another game 2 weeks later.

The War of the Lions had a bunch of different and added features didn't it? I know it had Balthier in there of which the original didn't have of course. You can say it was an updated version with a retconned continuity.

[Garland]

I would consider The War of The Lions to be not a sequel but a remastered version of the original.
It had an updated dialogue, better translation, new sidequests, cg rendered cutscenes, new optional characters and Jobs... But the main story is pretty well intact, and thus it is called Tactics and not Tactics 2.
I hold it in the same category as the other PsP, GBA, and to a lesser extent, DS releases (as the DS did screw around with the main stories a bit)
Essentially it is the same game-but enhanced, thus the PSN version is merely for the hyper nostalgic appeal.

I myself am not against a FF VII remake, as if you havn't already known, I never truley was able to enjoy it in my youth, and hopefully an enhanced remake may give myself ensentive to grasp it once more as many of the other ports did.

If I could get some details on the international version that would be great-though I have seen that it still uses the outdated Cure1, Fire3 terms.

[RedCloud]

I really want people to stop whining about FF7. I mean, I love it to death cause it was my first FF, but I really hate how it's the only one that gets the attention. DoC wasn't needed, although it was cool to play as Vince. Crisis Core was cool to play but screwed a lot of the original story up with Genesis.

I say get the PSN one, though I wish they converted it to widescreen for its re-release. I know FF7 remake would be awesome to look at, but it's time they left it alone.

I really want to see FF8 and 9 on the PSN too.

[DuMbAsS]

Yeah I just recently discovered wide screen and it is awesome... A FF7 on wide screen would kick ass.

Aren't 8 and 9 scheduled to be released to PSN?

[fullwall]

A Final Fantasy VII remake would be awesome, as the original's graphics leave a little to be desired in today's Crysis world. Also, there could be better clarification with regards to knowing where an item is. I could never find those hidden chests! In a remake I would expect to find better graphics, cameos, sidequests and maybe an optional dungeon(s)/ superboss. However, I do agree with RedCloud - FF7 gets way too much credit and attention!

[EdgarAnTerraFigaro]

VII doesn't need a remake people! At least not yet! There are other FF games that need a remake before goddamn VII!
FFV, FFVI and maybe II again, because frankly, I didn't like the remake for it!

I predict a VII remake by the end of this year or the next. You all will get your remake. But for now, concentrate on others that really needs a remake!

[Lady Lamont]

Originally Posted by EdgarAnTerraFigaro

VII doesn't need a remake people! At least not yet! There are other FF games that need a remake before goddamn VII!
FFV, FFVI and maybe II again, because frankly, I didn't like the remake for it!

I predict a VII remake by the end of this year or the next. You all will get your remake. But for now, concentrate on others that really needs a remake!

That's what the staff are saying, had people actually read it outside of "Final Fantasy VII" and "Remake".

The classic games need to be properly remade, instead of this DS remake crap.
And if anything, the last game they should remake is VII. IX should be before it, as it's always been the forgotten game out of the lot.

[fullwall]

I agree partially with what you're saying. But haven't IV, V and VI been remade on the PS1, GBA and now some on the DS? FFVII could use a remake at some point, as well as IX. IX should get it before VII, because it was so much better.

[Lady Lamont]

Originally Posted by fullwall

I agree partially with what you're saying. But haven't IV, V and VI been remade on the PS1, GBA and now some on the DS? FFVII could use a remake at some point, as well as IX. IX should get it before VII, because it was so much better.

IV, V, VI weren't really "remade", only a slight graphical update and the inclusion of some FMV (Full-Motion Videos). The GBA were called FF [x] - Advanced as they were purely ported versions of the originals.
Some are on the DS, however I would prefer to have a completely rendered version, to showcase Amano's beautiful designs in contrast to the smaller, "chibi" forms of them.

[fullwall]

Guess that's true. Hope they make V for DS, and that it's better than the IV one.

[EdgarAnTerraFigaro]

Why DS? They could go for better systems. VI and V have to be some of the best FF titles out there, I mean, the FF team agreed their fav FF game was V. That should make em remake it!

-sigh-

[DuMbAsS]

An entire graphical update to the older games, and I mean 3D models for gameplay and not just FMVs, would take a lot of effort. Said games though would be crazy spectacular. However, they shouldn't (or, as I would say, can't) make it like the IV DS remake. As, like LL stated, chibi forms aren't doing justice to Amano. While they did go through a lot, it just wasn't worth it.

IX had good visuals at the time. In fact they were great! FMVs were pretty, and in gameplay had a lot going on. Although better visuals for today's standards would be great. Voiceovers would add to it. And then throw in whatever you need to take up more space till it's like 4gb at least.

[Lady Lamont]

Originally Posted by DuMbAsS

An entire graphical update to the older games, and I mean 3D models for gameplay and not just FMVs, would take a lot of effort. Said games though would be crazy spectacular. However, they shouldn't (or, as I would say, can't) make it like the IV DS remake. As, like LL stated, chibi forms aren't doing justice to Amano. While they did go through a lot, it just wasn't worth it.

IX had good visuals at the time. In fact they were great! FMVs were pretty, and in gameplay had a lot going on. Although better visuals for today's standards would be great. Voiceovers would add to it. And then throw in whatever you need to take up more space till it's like 4gb at least.

Lai's got the right idea. The past games are all in ranging file sizes - from 2gb to 4gb or slightly more on occasions, which is absolutely nothing in contrast to the current standard.

My point in case being is that after a few years, they've now mastered their own Crystal Tools engine and are now able to render a lot faster than to what they could in the past and they are now able to give Amano's designs the proper, rendered respect they deserve. Sure, they made the DS "remakes" however the general basics were reused from the Final Fantasy III DS "remake" and on the overall, I wouldn't really consider them as remakes.

Final Fantasy IX is a great game, however my general suggestion for it to be remade before Final Fantasy VII is that if a remake is made of Final Fantasy VII before the others - then the games will be overshadowed yet again due to the over-hype of Final Fantasy VII. I would rather that the Classics and the middle-field (VIII, IX, X, X-2, XII) to have further recognition as I have taken note that mainly the hardcore fans are the only ones picking up the ports and these so-called remakes nowadays as the platform they're being released on (specifically the DS) is generally targeted at a younger audience than to what the series is intended for.

Sure, there is a varied target age market however it's still generally marketed as the "Latest GameBoy" to older persons combined with the factor that video game difficulty levels has been lowered over time (and that bar is still being lowered) on such platforms and/or consoles.

If a "true" remake was to be made, with some slight expansions (to fix corrections to the initial plot and other things that may have been referenced throughout the series) then it would appeal to all audiences. The Nintendo DS, Nintendo Wii as well as the ports available on the PlayStation Portable are absolutely lackluster - it's a general port OR a general reuse of styles (have a look at FFIII DS, FFIV DS, FF-F:Chocobo Tales and tell me that you don't see a general reuse between them) with some work provided on the cutscenes but on the overall they simply are not appealing as the in-game system is considered to be outdated and overly confusing for new gamers of the current time.

An Easy/Difficulty setting, as well as bringing more awareness to the fact that there are OTHER games outside of Final Fantasy VII and perhaps with some of them Square could make some downloadable content (for example, character costumes and/or the like that are references to other titles within the franchise), as well as an updated system that is reminiscent of the classic ATB system instead of... well... as they say "Beating a dead horse" or as in this case "Beating a dead Chocobo" with these sorts of releases.

Sure, I enjoy playing the remakes... however it's the exact same storyline without anything of additional interest - they've brought nothing new to the titles aside from shiny FMVs. An example of a good remake would be of Capcom's original Resident Evil, and it's remake - Resident Evil on GameCube (and now Wii as "Resident Evil: Archives") as a simple example of what I would generally expect from a remake in contrast to what I have already mentioned.

It would make amazing games, absolutely perfect if they executed it correctly.

[EdgarAnTerraFigaro]

....
I still think they shouldn't remake VII. To much would be changed for money.
They must concentrate on old, better games. Such as V, VI and and complete re-remake of Final Fantasy II.

I guess I'm just going crazy because I think that SE would change VII into something completely different.

[Garland]

Originally Posted by Lady Lamont

IV, V, VI weren't really "remade", only a slight graphical update and the inclusion of some FMV (Full-Motion Videos). The GBA were called FF [x] - Advanced as they were purely ported versions of the originals.
Some are on the DS, however I would prefer to have a completely rendered version, to showcase Amano's beautiful designs in contrast to the smaller, "chibi" forms of them.

I would concider the advanced compilation to be remakes, as they also included a large selection of bonus dungeons. The "Anthology" versions to the Ps1 were more ports, as they didn't seem to do anything to the actual gameplay like fix glitches or change the translation.

I don't know why everyone wants to cover up the 16 bit glory era, those were some of the best of the franchise for good reason! Converting them to 3d could never truley enhance it's feel.

My point is, the I-VI games have gone trough SO many "Ports" and "Remakes" that i'm getting sick of buying the same stuff.

I've already played I,II,III,IV,V, and VI in the last quarter decade, I want to play VII, VIII and IX! The Ps1 is a dying system, so I want to have them port those ones as they are falling behind now, not the first generation games.

Terra, II just got a remake like a year ago for the PsP, and frankly I, and II have had a total of Six Ports and remakes!

If your definition Lamont, of a remake is to screw around with the storyline, then I am against that. I'd rather they make a sequal for VI (For example) then try to tamper with the original game and add new story content)