Shoutbox Rules

[Wander]

I'd like to bring the following injustice to the attention of the viewers of this forum:

Notice: Please avoid speaking in profanities or about inappropriate subjects. Infractions of this request will result in Shoutbox bans.

This is a blatant attack on the right to free speech, and thereby democracy. Swearing is often used, especially on the internet, to add emphasis to a certain point. The internet is not to be taken seriously. If you're worried about younger users picking up bad language as a result of a heated Shoutbox conversation, most kids learn the whole set of swear words at school.

So why should we accommodate for hypersensitive faggots? Those who cannot bear the thought of someone reading the word "****", lest their mind shatter after being subjected to such an atrocity. We shouldn't have to censor our speech for these rat-bastard weasels. I demand that these rules be removed.

[The Dude]

Jay probably set them there for a reason. I would think if you got something to say bad about someone. by all means take it to the rant section.

I think there's a difference between free thinking and going "**** **** ****ity ****." though.

[King Hydro]

just because kids will learn the dynamics and more colourful words of the english language doesn't mean we should be the ones to expose them to it.

Kids will see images of violence, gore and all sorts of regularly censored things... does that mean we should allow things like tubgirl to be posted where it's easily accessable? I think not.

And if you really need to place stress upon a point or on how you're feeling use other adjectives to explain.

eg. "I'm mad!"..."I'm so mad!" "I'm furious" etc etc

[Jenova]

Same with The Dude. I'm going to enforce them until they get changed though.

[Wander]

Silence, what does it matter if we're the ones they learn it from? Some parent isn't going to ring up and try to shut the place down.

And there's a vast difference between repulsive imagery and swearing in a casual conversation, with the use of swearing being at the lighter end of the scale.

[The Man]

It's one thing to ban insults and **** like that in the shoutbox; I'm fine with that. Banning all profanities and talk of sexual content seems to me to be going quite a bit too far though. Sure there's no need to spew the F-bomb all over the thing, but that's a completely different issue from warning someone just for saying "****" once, which would be perfectly legitimate under the current rules.

I'm fine with setting a content limit on the shoutbox, but banning all profanity and sexual content from it seems to be going too far

[King Hydro]

Originally Posted by Wander

Silence, what does it matter if we're the ones they learn it from? Some parent isn't going to ring up and try to shut the place down.

And there's a vast difference between repulsive imagery and swearing in a casual conversation, with the use of swearing being at the lighter end of the scale.

What does it matter? Well what does it matter if we're not those people.

Yes, there is a big difference between the two but the point i was making was that if we're going to expose younger people to swearing why stop there? I'm not for it, and i don't condone it.


Aaron, i agree that prohibiting everything like that is a bit over the top. I think things should be given a chance.. if there's the occasional sexual reference or euphamism, or swear word.. well so what?

It's when people start using it as a commodity, **** this and **** that, **** all over the gaff.

[Ex Deo]

It's all about the target audience and ensuring an environment that everyone can participate in. We're trying to bring in new members, particularly of the younger sort (early to mid teens), this is a Final Fantasy website after all.

If you could guarantee that no members whatsoever might be lost due to petty ****, such as saying "****," I'd support you, but sadly, some folks are deeply offended over cussing, and may tell their kids not to come to FFE because we cuss.

As long as we don't censor ideas and complaint/dissent, the rule doesn't much concern me.

[Larsa]

Originally Posted by Wander

I'd like to bring the following injustice to the attention of the viewers of this forum:


This is a blatant attack on the right to free speech, and thereby democracy. Swearing is often used, especially on the internet, to add emphasis to a certain point. The internet is not to be taken seriously. If you're worried about younger users picking up bad language as a result of a heated Shoutbox conversation, most kids learn the whole set of swear words at school.

So why should we accommodate for hypersensitive faggots? Those who cannot bear the thought of someone reading the word "****", lest their mind shatter after being subjected to such an atrocity. We shouldn't have to censor our speech for these rat-bastard weasels. I demand that these rules be removed.

Democracy goes to hell every time it's introduced. DOWN WITH THIS RULE!!!

[Exodus]

Down with The Man.

[Luna Lovegood]

Originally Posted by The Man

I'm fine with setting a content limit on the shoutbox, but banning all profanity and sexual content from it seems to be going too far

QFT. An all out ban on swearing and such in the shoutbox is going too far, but setting a lenient boundary is all well and good though..

[The Man]

Originally Posted by Exodus

Down with The Man.

no u

[Abunix]

People, people, please. First off, we need to cut off on the BEEP damn profanity. 'BEEP BEEP BEEPiddy BEEP,' even as an example, shouldn't be posted, so shut the BEEP up. We shouldn't swear, you know? It's BEEPed up. Really BEEPed up. BEEP free speech, and BEEP 'no rules.'

[Derek]

****.

Zomgosh. Just checking to see if it was censored.

I think it's ridiculous to even ban swearing from the SB. I think most of us are mature enough to not think that saying the words "****" or "god damn you" or "bitch" gains us any respect when we leak them like a prefusely bleeding wound.

I think it should all be good unless a couple of idiots are whining with each other... And considering most of us aren't complete asses, I don't think that'll happen.

[Haddaway]

I voted to remove the ban fgj.

[Daryl Falchion]

This talk about democracy makes me lol. It's the internet people, don't take this **** (whoops! lol) so seriously.

However, Aaron and Derek pretty much hit the points I wanted rasied. It's one thing to be saying vast amount of four-letter words every second shout but quite another to say it in natural conversation *points up*. I don't cuss to get a reaction; I do because it's just the most natural word to say. I hate seeing mass censoring of a forum--that occured at another forum I use to frequent and it's partly because of its excessive censoring that I was put off. You might lure in a few over-sensitive angst-ridden teens but you're also annoying and perhaps driving the more sensible and productive regulars.

Nude. lols

[Angry Bear]

Something that amuses me: look at my custom user title. Obviously, the word "****" has not been censored, but the word that had is simply the innocuous "leader". Interesting.

Ultimately, I agree with the general consensus that swearing is sometimes used in natural conversation, and unnecessary censorship is at best annoying. However, this is not a democracy, and ultimately what the boss man says, goes.

Remove the censors plz, even though I don't often curse online, I still like being able to if I want to.

[The Man]

Originally Posted by Dragonsoul

Nude. lols

yes plz

[Larsa]

Why do we really have these rules? All were using is english and it already's a rule that there's NO pornography in ANY part of the site.

[The Man]

yes, but we all know Dawn's not going to post them. Sadly.