Lord of the Rings

Byakuya · 03-02-2007, 09:50 AM

I couldn't find any LOTR threads here so I decided to start one. I am a huge fan of lotr and I read it twice a year (thouh I'm quite a slow reader.)

Anyways, I was just wondering if I'm the only fan here?

I AM THE CAPS MONSTER · 03-02-2007, 10:25 AM

I'm a Big fan i have all the Game and i got the boxset

But i liked the Thrid Age the Best that was one of the best Games.

Beeble · 03-02-2007, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The End

I'm a Big fan i have all the Game and i got the boxset

But i liked the Thrid Age the Best that was one of the best Games.

Since this was posted in the library, i guess it's about the books, not the games...

Anyway, i've read the books a couple of times, and they are good. But they have never been among my big favs, i don't really know why since i love fantasy. The language that is used makes it boring here and there. I've only read the books in swedish, so it might be because the translation though, and I intend to read them on english some day. And to understand the books completely, you have to read between the lines a whole lot, which can make it a bit complicated. But still, good books.

Dionysus_PSI · 03-03-2007, 09:58 PM

I am a big fan of Tolkien.

You say you read them twice a year, I assume that you only read The Lord of the Rings (thus The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, and Return of the King.
The series is significantly bigger than that, but The Lord of the Rings is my favorite sofar. I recently bought The silmarillion but haven't gotton a chance to read it yet. (I have also Read the Hobbit several times, LOTR about five times, and parts of a few of the other books that I don't own yet).

LOTR is what first got me into fantasy in the firstplace, and I think that I am CERTINLY not the only one who that is the case for.

Tolkien put a lot of thought behind the world of 'The Lord of the Rings', including actually coming up with whole languages, cultures, descriptions of places and other parts of the world that have become serious benchmarks in all of fantasy. When people talk about 'elves', 'hobbits', 'orcs', and many other things from his universe they are offtimes either directly talking about that Tolkien wrote about, or talking about things based somehow off of Tolkien's work. It's quite astounding actually when you step back and think about it (with approperitate reference).

Anyways I think that's enough for now,
Cheers,
Steve (Dion.)

The Dude · 03-04-2007, 01:54 PM

The Simirillion is pretty good. It goes into good detail about the history of Middle Earth and the lands you don't hear about. It gives the story about the religion of Middle Earth, the cultures, the big evil guy known as Morgoth and etc.

Lady Advent · 03-04-2007, 01:55 PM

I have read The silmarillion its preety good, but i find it hard to understand sometimes because of the lanuage, I've read snippets of the other books. Tolkien was amazingly imaginative and its preety cool that he basically created a whole different world, I wubies the maps at the begining of the books they are so cool.

The Man · 03-04-2007, 04:12 PM

People would have to fail seriously hard not to appreciate this series at least a little bit.

The Silmarillion is indeed difficult reading because of all the different names he uses for the same characters, but the story behind it is fantastic, probably the best and most epic thing he ever come up with. Lord of the Rings is an all-time classic of course, I don't even need to go into that. Anyone who's worth their salt already knows about it. [/elitism]

Shakan'Dar · 03-05-2007, 02:10 AM

The thing that I love the most about Tolkien's work is that if you just ignore a little bit of scientific fact, we could be living in Middle Earth. The Creation by Illuvatar, the world being flat ( i.e. people used to think that) then the cataclysm which made the world round ( i.e. we discover that Earth is round) and then the general fading away of all races but men ( i.e. why we have "forgotten" about them and we can't find them anymore)

I liken it to the same amount of ignorance required to pretend God exists.

Daryl Falchion · 05-04-2007, 12:28 PM

While I loved the movies I found the books very dull. They were "over-written", contained too much detail and descirption and just moved too slowly for me.

Jak · 05-04-2007, 03:45 PM

I couldn't really get into the books. Loved the films though.

Daryl Falchion · 05-06-2007, 02:48 AM

I think the "epicness" comes across the silver screen very well but the same thing dosen't work well in a book. It's just too much info for a person to process. :/

EoT · 05-06-2007, 03:08 AM

I really enjoyed the films. They were all very exciting to see and I was very hyped up about them but unfortunately I never read any of the books.

And a bit off topic but I heard they were going to make a movie out of the book The Hobbit ? is this true or false

Shakan'Dar · 07-25-2007, 12:37 AM

I went to New Zealand and on a LOTR film location tour. The guide said that they'd asked Peter Jackson to make the Hobbit but he was pretty busy with King Kong at the time. I'm not sure what's become of it, but they might make it but pass it off to another director, which would be a shame. Peter Jackson did a great job with the first 3.

Also, few people know this, but Tolkien actually made the languages first. He created Elvish as a language, but then he wanted the language to have a history behind it. LOTR was written to give his languages a backdrop. So unlike most writers, the story was made for the language, not the other way around.

I also thought that the Silmarillion was the best thing he wrote. I love the part where Sauron battles through song. That part was a bit weird, but cool in concept, that the words of the song actually had some sort of power.

The Man · 07-30-2007, 12:37 PM

I heard they were scoping out the idea of Raimi doing The Hobbit. He's one of the few directors apart from Jackson that I'd trust with the story, as long as they don't make him make random changes to the planned script like they did with Spider-Man 3.

EdgarAnTerraFigaro · 11-16-2008, 12:26 AM

Snap!
I love Lord of The Rings!
I own the movies, books and games!
I actually started to write my book because those stories, they are so good, it inspired me to write!

Vermilion Thanatos · 11-16-2008, 02:36 AM

Not a huge fan--of anything, really, even FF--but a strong enough one to appreciate the genius of Tolkein. I own the books, I own the movies, but I don't see the point in buying any more memorabilia than I need. I feel that allowing movie and sports adaptations to infiltrate the video game industry was a huge mistake and has gotten way out of hand. It stifles creativity from creating much more innovative games.

EdgarAnTerraFigaro · 11-16-2008, 11:46 PM

Yeah, but i like the elf language and thought it would fully be in the game.
Not to mention, i was comparing the differences between it and Eragon.
I wanted to see how much the Eragon book steals from Pern, Lord of the Rings,
and more.

Vermilion Thanatos · 11-17-2008, 01:07 AM

Eragon steals quite alot, actually. Hardly anything new. Which is why I have taken a break from reading fantasy novels for a while.

Meh, I suppose if Elvish was used then it might at least be entertaining.

EdgarAnTerraFigaro · 11-17-2008, 01:10 AM

I love fantasy languages.
I made one myself, my friends and family say it's real good, but i think
their just being nice to me ^ ^

Vermilion Thanatos · 11-20-2008, 03:50 PM

Well, unless you know of legitimate linguist to analyze it, I guess you'll never know how good it is.

03-02-2007, 09:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
Byakuya Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Seireitei Age: 20 Posts: 14 Rep Power: 6	Lord of the Rings I couldn't find any LOTR threads here so I decided to start one. I am a huge fan of lotr and I read it twice a year (thouh I'm quite a slow reader.) Anyways, I was just wondering if I'm the only fan here?

03-04-2007, 01:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
The Dude I <3 Jak Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Scranton. Where the Office is filmed Age: 23 Posts: 2,407 Rep Power: 10	The Simirillion is pretty good. It goes into good detail about the history of Middle Earth and the lands you don't hear about. It gives the story about the religion of Middle Earth, the cultures, the big evil guy known as Morgoth and etc. __________________ FFOF Got a question or want to tell us why we suck? Click Here!

03-04-2007, 01:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
Lady Advent Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: * Sea of lost dreams * Age: 20 Posts: 117 Rep Power: 6	I have read The silmarillion its preety good, but i find it hard to understand sometimes because of the lanuage, I've read snippets of the other books. Tolkien was amazingly imaginative and its preety cool that he basically created a whole different world, I wubies the maps at the begining of the books they are so cool. __________________ * Cookie Lover!!!!!* N ow at the last gasp of Love's latest breath, W hen, his pulse failing, Passion speechless lies, When Faith is kneeling by his bed of death, A nd Innocence is closing up his eyes

03-04-2007, 04:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
The Man Vi veri vniversvm vivvs vici Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Florida Age: 26 Posts: 3,639 Rep Power: 13	People would have to fail seriously hard not to appreciate this series at least a little bit. The Silmarillion is indeed difficult reading because of all the different names he uses for the same characters, but the story behind it is fantastic, probably the best and most epic thing he ever come up with. Lord of the Rings is an all-time classic of course, I don't even need to go into that. Anyone who's worth their salt already knows about it. [/elitism] __________________ Sad polar bear is sad Fool's Gold * LSD * FFOF * FCF * last.fm * Anarchism

05-04-2007, 12:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
Daryl Falchion Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Age: 29 Posts: 339 Rep Power: 6	While I loved the movies I found the books very dull. They were "over-written", contained too much detail and descirption and just moved too slowly for me. __________________ For they could not love you, but still your love was true And when no hope was left in sight, on that starry starry night You took your life as lovers often do, But I could have told you, Vincent, This world was never meant for one as beautiful as you Vincent-by Don Mclean PSBEYOND

03-02-2007, 10:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
I AM THE CAPS MONSTER Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Europe Age: 17 Posts: 365 Rep Power: 6	I'm a Big fan i have all the Game and i got the boxset But i liked the Thrid Age the Best that was one of the best Games.

03-03-2007, 09:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
Dionysus_PSI Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Canada Age: 24 Posts: 72 Rep Power: 6	I am a big fan of Tolkien. You say you read them twice a year, I assume that you only read The Lord of the Rings (thus The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, and Return of the King. The series is significantly bigger than that, but The Lord of the Rings is my favorite sofar. I recently bought The silmarillion but haven't gotton a chance to read it yet. (I have also Read the Hobbit several times, LOTR about five times, and parts of a few of the other books that I don't own yet). LOTR is what first got me into fantasy in the firstplace, and I think that I am CERTINLY not the only one who that is the case for. Tolkien put a lot of thought behind the world of 'The Lord of the Rings', including actually coming up with whole languages, cultures, descriptions of places and other parts of the world that have become serious benchmarks in all of fantasy. When people talk about 'elves', 'hobbits', 'orcs', and many other things from his universe they are offtimes either directly talking about that Tolkien wrote about, or talking about things based somehow off of Tolkien's work. It's quite astounding actually when you step back and think about it (with approperitate reference). Anyways I think that's enough for now, Cheers, Steve (Dion.)

03-05-2007, 02:10 AM	#8 (permalink)
Shakan'Dar Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 19 Posts: 254 Rep Power: 6	The thing that I love the most about Tolkien's work is that if you just ignore a little bit of scientific fact, we could be living in Middle Earth. The Creation by Illuvatar, the world being flat ( i.e. people used to think that) then the cataclysm which made the world round ( i.e. we discover that Earth is round) and then the general fading away of all races but men ( i.e. why we have "forgotten" about them and we can't find them anymore) I liken it to the same amount of ignorance required to pretend God exists.

05-04-2007, 03:45 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jak KING OF THE INTERNETS Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Liverpool Age: 18 Posts: 2,366 Rep Power: 10	I couldn't really get into the books. Loved the films though.

05-06-2007, 02:48 AM	#11 (permalink)
Daryl Falchion Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Age: 29 Posts: 339 Rep Power: 6	I think the "epicness" comes across the silver screen very well but the same thing dosen't work well in a book. It's just too much info for a person to process. :/ __________________ For they could not love you, but still your love was true And when no hope was left in sight, on that starry starry night You took your life as lovers often do, But I could have told you, Vincent, This world was never meant for one as beautiful as you Vincent-by Don Mclean PSBEYOND

05-06-2007, 03:08 AM	#12 (permalink)
EoT Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney Age: 20 Posts: 580 Rep Power: 7	I really enjoyed the films. They were all very exciting to see and I was very hyped up about them but unfortunately I never read any of the books. And a bit off topic but I heard they were going to make a movie out of the book The Hobbit ? is this true or false __________________

07-25-2007, 12:37 AM	#13 (permalink)
Shakan'Dar Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 19 Posts: 254 Rep Power: 6	I went to New Zealand and on a LOTR film location tour. The guide said that they'd asked Peter Jackson to make the Hobbit but he was pretty busy with King Kong at the time. I'm not sure what's become of it, but they might make it but pass it off to another director, which would be a shame. Peter Jackson did a great job with the first 3. Also, few people know this, but Tolkien actually made the languages first. He created Elvish as a language, but then he wanted the language to have a history behind it. LOTR was written to give his languages a backdrop. So unlike most writers, the story was made for the language, not the other way around. I also thought that the Silmarillion was the best thing he wrote. I love the part where Sauron battles through song. That part was a bit weird, but cool in concept, that the words of the song actually had some sort of power.

07-30-2007, 12:37 PM	#14 (permalink)
The Man Vi veri vniversvm vivvs vici Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Florida Age: 26 Posts: 3,639 Rep Power: 13	I heard they were scoping out the idea of Raimi doing The Hobbit. He's one of the few directors apart from Jackson that I'd trust with the story, as long as they don't make him make random changes to the planned script like they did with Spider-Man 3. __________________ Sad polar bear is sad Fool's Gold * LSD * FFOF * FCF * last.fm * Anarchism

11-16-2008, 12:26 AM	#15 (permalink)
EdgarAnTerraFigaro Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Twilight Zone :} Age: 20 Posts: 2,089 Rep Power: 7	Re: Lord of the Rings Snap! I love Lord of The Rings! I own the movies, books and games! I actually started to write my book because those stories, they are so good, it inspired me to write!

11-16-2008, 02:36 AM	#16 (permalink)
Vermilion Thanatos Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The fiery pits of hell Age: 19 Posts: 1,384 Rep Power: 5	Re: Lord of the Rings Not a huge fan--of anything, really, even FF--but a strong enough one to appreciate the genius of Tolkein. I own the books, I own the movies, but I don't see the point in buying any more memorabilia than I need. I feel that allowing movie and sports adaptations to infiltrate the video game industry was a huge mistake and has gotten way out of hand. It stifles creativity from creating much more innovative games. __________________ You are a Red Sage!!! red sage a master of both black and white magic perfectionist; dashing; imaginative

11-16-2008, 11:46 PM	#17 (permalink)
EdgarAnTerraFigaro Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Twilight Zone :} Age: 20 Posts: 2,089 Rep Power: 7	Re: Lord of the Rings Yeah, but i like the elf language and thought it would fully be in the game. Not to mention, i was comparing the differences between it and Eragon. I wanted to see how much the Eragon book steals from Pern, Lord of the Rings, and more.

11-17-2008, 01:07 AM	#18 (permalink)
Vermilion Thanatos Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The fiery pits of hell Age: 19 Posts: 1,384 Rep Power: 5	Re: Lord of the Rings Eragon steals quite alot, actually. Hardly anything new. Which is why I have taken a break from reading fantasy novels for a while. Meh, I suppose if Elvish was used then it might at least be entertaining. __________________ You are a Red Sage!!! red sage a master of both black and white magic perfectionist; dashing; imaginative

11-17-2008, 01:10 AM	#19 (permalink)
EdgarAnTerraFigaro Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Twilight Zone :} Age: 20 Posts: 2,089 Rep Power: 7	Re: Lord of the Rings I love fantasy languages. I made one myself, my friends and family say it's real good, but i think their just being nice to me ^ ^

11-20-2008, 03:50 PM	#20 (permalink)
Vermilion Thanatos Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The fiery pits of hell Age: 19 Posts: 1,384 Rep Power: 5	Re: Lord of the Rings Well, unless you know of legitimate linguist to analyze it, I guess you'll never know how good it is. __________________ You are a Red Sage!!! red sage a master of both black and white magic perfectionist; dashing; imaginative

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