World War 3!!!

[Larsa]

Well let us take a look into the wonderous place called the past. In WW1 Germany was destroyed to a place close to hell. After the war the government fell, Hitler took over, the country was very poor, and there was much corruption there. In that happening the Germans became very angry and went into war. They were controled by someone who was very powerfull, intelligent (yes he was very intelligent but he didn't use it wisely), and he had quite a few supporters, and he had many people in his country who were willing to help him. Now let's look a the at our horrible present, here we're in a war that is destroying the countrys of Iraq and Afghanistan into much termoil. Most likely if we ever do get out of those contrys we will just leave the countrys in ruin. Now there are many children in these countrys that are growing up in this war, staring to hate us for what we are doing to them and most likely one of them could just be the next ruler of those countrys saying that the hate us and think we should be destroyed. If you compare both the better past and the much horrible future they both are very similar. Hence you could just say that this war against terrorism is the prelude to WW3.

[Obsidian Tides]

virtually any conflict can be generalized enough to reach the same conclusions.

[Larsa]

Originally Posted by Obsidian Tides

virtually any conflict can be generalized enough to reach the same conclusions.

Yes but somethings can be stronger on infuence on ones thoughts of wether or not they hate something.

[XxVivixX]

i see what you mean larsa, but the iraqi government is smarter than try to have a war against america anytime soon, trust me i konw. being from iraq and living in america now, i hope that it doesnt happen but i dont see it happening unless a major country like russia, germany, japan, china, etc. joins them in the fight. other than that, i dont think that it'll happen.

[Larsa]

Originally Posted by XxVivixX

i see what you mean larsa, but the iraqi government is smarter than try to have a war against america anytime soon, trust me i konw. being from iraq and living in america now, i hope that it doesnt happen but i dont see it happening unless a major country like russia, germany, japan, china, etc. joins them in the fight. other than that, i dont think that it'll happen.

Dang, I thought I was forgeting to add that. Well I was going toadd that there are other countrys that could help them just like how Gremany allied with Italy and Austria.

[Ragnarok]

As much turmoil as their is in the middle East I do not think World War 3 may come from farther East in North Korea. Basically the Korean War isn't over. Only a ceasefire was signed. Sure North Korea may have not have anymore allies willing to support then but they do have nuclear weapons.

Though not every country overthrown and occupied bu the United states went wrong. Look at post war Japan and it's economic success. Yet the situation in the Middle East is somewhat different. Japan got the United States out of it's hair in six years by cooperating. As for the Middle East I really can't predict or comment on it at the moment. It is hard to tell...

But I hope we are smart enough to avoid a World War 3.

[Larsa]

Originally Posted by Ragnarok

As much turmoil as their is in the middle East I do not think World War 3 may come from farther East in North Korea. Basically the Korean War isn't over. Only a ceasefire was signed. Sure North Korea may have not have anymore allies willing to support then but they do have nuclear weapons.

Though not every country overthrown and occupied bu the United states went wrong. Look at post war Japan and it's economic success. Yet the situation in the Middle East is somewhat different. Japan got the United States out of it's hair in six years by cooperating. As for the Middle East I really can't predict or comment on it at the moment. It is hard to tell...

But I hope we are smart enough to avoid a World War 3.

Well remember that the Korean war was never really a war so I hoghly would doubt that Korea would go into WW3.

[Ragnarok]

Originally Posted by Larsa

Well remember that the Korean war was never really a war so I hoghly would doubt that Korea would go into WW3.

Whoops I seem to have digressed on my last post and didn't get to my point. What I meant is the collapse of North Korea maybe big problem for the world. North Korea is the only communist nation which hasn't taken a stance towards capitalism. China, Vietnam and Cuba have. One of the world's hotspot is actually the DMZ (aka as the border between the two Koreas) Not to mention Japan and South Korea feels and can be attacked by North Korea. Japan only has Special Defense Forces so America may need to step in thus causing a ruckus.

[Ugly Casanova]

Bigger font, or stop ye yap! >:C

[The Dude]

The korean war was a war of sorts. It might not have been an official war but there was front line combat involving US and South Korean allies against the North. Not exactly signifying a war but neither is it just a moment.

As for the Japanese success. I think it would be best to review the fact that aside from routine trade. The US never really had any potential interest in Japan before the war, for those at the time it was just a far off place where the people dressed funny. What I'm getting at here is that unlike Japan, we have had previous dealings with middle eastern leaders, some of whom weren't exactly the greatest but we kept them on call. After those that were on top got ousted. Those that did the uprising looked at their allies as enemies. While with Japan, we never really did any of that. This is not to say that cooperation with the allies after the war wasn't a focal point. I'm just making a statement as to why it hasn't exactly been as easy to get countries in the middle east to cooperate as easily.

I doubt we would ever reach a total conflict the likes of which a Third World War would be seen. Atleast any time in the future. Now once the world's major oil reserves start running dry, then we got a problem. Although I could be wrong and tomorrow morning one of the big leaders wakes up and snaps. I hope not.

Even if oil reserves run low and countries do enter conflict, eventually a victor will come about and the loser(s) will either succumb to the rule of the victor or die out. Much like Japan did back in World War 2. They had lost long before we dropped the bomb. They ran out of oil among other things and their war machine stopped dead.

[anintendo_evafan]

Pathetic. Simply pathetic.

Technically World War 3 has already happened. It is known as World War 2 for the uneducated.

The French and Indian War is probably the first World War in history. It was fought in Europe (Seven Years War), on the North American continent, and in the Carribean. Though this finding is still being disputed amongst historians.

Anyways...As pessimistic as I am. To even compare the state of current affairs to Nazi Germany's uprising is a complete bastardation of historical implications. Yes America has once again ****ed up some countries worse than they were before, but what nation has not done this already. Israel ****ed up Lebanon. We ****ed up Afghanistan and Iraq. England...well lets not go there. But you get my point. People fight wars for little or no reason. We are probably one of the orniest damn creatures in the galaxy. No reason, no remorse, no ****. That's the human way.

[The Dude]

By the term World War, the factors that are also involved in aside from location of combat. Though France and England were global superpowers, the amount of fighting and the loss of life, hardly compares to "The Great War." The actual name of World War 1.

Also two primary countries fighting in a seperate country also doesn't constitute a "World War." When there is a large scale global conflict that was the great war. Then yes, that would be a world war. "Japan was involved during the first world war and were with the allied powers of the time with Britian, America, France, Italy, and Russia.

A global conflict situation is likely but with so many countries allying themseleves with one another, it would be mixed.

[My Final Heaven]

Yes, that was thanks to the smoothbore musket and bayonet and artillery shells that didn't explode more than say, 50% of the time and took fully two minutes to load. There wasn't the posibility for quite so much carnage in the napoleonic war because you can't fight trench warfare with muskets. It was the trenches that killed people, not the battles. The Battle of waterloo was a blood bath, there were something in the number of half a million combatants in you count both sides and about 100 thousand killed or horribly wounded. In one day of combat with smoothbore muzzle loading weapons which had an effective range of about 40 yards.

The difference is, when the fighting was done, they didn't haul thier dead back and lie in the mud for weeks on end, they packed up and shipped home again, but I would agree that the napoleonic wars make a much better WW1.

[The Dude]

If we're gonna go on semantics of death on the battliefield the wouldn't the Trojan War or even the Crusades count as the first world war? Both of them had large amounts of blood shed. Both permantly changed the area that they were in.

[anintendo_evafan]

When the term World War is thrown around so loosely it could apply in a very vague sense to large scale conflicts both in terms of weaponry and loss of life. But in reality world war has always referred to a war being fought in different parts of the world on a larger or grander scale (countries separated by oceans for example). Not wars localized too inter continental or inter regional conflicts. At least that has always been my understanding of World War.