Homosexuality banned?

[Larsa]

A lot of the born again Christians (mostly refering to bush), catholics, religious fanatics, and pro republicans are voiceing that homosexuality should be banned, esspecialy gay marriages. Being a bisexual myself I highly speack against this and think that love should not be controled by laws.

What do you think the government should do about this "problem?" Do you think gay marriages and relationships should be banned?

[My Final Heaven]

Talk to me yesterday and I'd have given you a rant about this on the pro homosex side, but I'm too damn pissed at the U.S. in general right now, so my advice is move to Iceland when you get the chance. They're progressive and they have lots of geothermal, wind and other renuable energies. When the world blows up, Iceland will be left standing in the middle of it.

[The Man]

There's no valid reason to oppose homosexuality or gay marriage. The only arguments I've ever seen presented against it have been nothing more than obvious excuses for bigotry.

[Jenova]

Freak no.

Most Americans love their gays. Don't judge all of us [Americans] because of the extremists. Most Americans are alright with gays and gay marriage.

[Ex Deo]

Ok. I have to say something. Yes, the vast majority of Christians are opposed to homosexuality, as our religious text clearly labels it a sin. But please point out where prominent Christian figures have asked for an outright ban on homosexuality.

Myself being a Christian, I agree whole-heartedly that Christians take their views on homosexuality and homosexuals too far, including some in my own family, but none of them would advocate banning it. Please specify who's made these kind of remarks.

[Obsidian Tides]

haha, Deo beat me to it. i'd heard of protest against gay marriage, of course, but i hadn't heard they'd begun trying to ban homosexuality itself. :P
then again, i had already started taking anything Larsa said with a grain of salt after reading his first couple of posts around here.

[My Final Heaven]

Well, I know that Sodomy is already illegal in some states (Probably Alabama so take that with a grain of salt) but that also counts for hetero sexual sodomy too. 'Goin' right up her poop-shute' as the great Frank Zappa put it, is a jailable offense in some states.

[The Man]

I always love it when people bring up biblical justifications for disallowing gay marriage.

Originally Posted by some open letter to Dr. Laura that circulated on the Internets several years ago

Dear Dr. Laura,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Leviticus 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Leviticus 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

d) Leviticus 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Leviticus 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

g) Leviticus 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Leviticus 19:27. How should they die?

i) I know from Leviticus 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Leviticus 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Leviticus 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your devoted disciple and adoring fan.

Might as well copypasta this one too.

1. Homosexuality is not natural, much like eyeglasses, polyester, and birth control are not natural.
2. Heterosexual marriages are valid because they produce children. Infertile couples and old people cannot get legally married because the world needs more children.
3. Obviously gay parents will raise gay children because straight parents only raise straight children.
4. Straight marriage will be less meaningful, since Britney Spears's 55-hour just-for-fun marriage was meaningful.
5. Heterosexual marriage has been around for a long time, and it hasn't changed at all: women are property, Blacks can't marry Whites, and divorce is illegal.
6. Gay marriage should be decided by the people, not the courts, because the majority-elected legislatures, not courts, have historically protected the rights of minorities.
7. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are always imposed on the entire country. That's why we only have one religion in America.
8. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people makes you tall.
9. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage license.
10. Children can never succeed without both male and female role models at home. That's why single parents are forbidden to raise children.
11. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society. Heterosexual marriage has been around for a long time, and we could never adapt to new social norms because we haven't adapted to cars or longer lifespans.
12. Civil unions, providing most of the same benefits as marriage with a different name are better, because a "separate but equal" institution is always constitutional. Separate schools for African-Americans worked just as well as separate marriages will for gays & lesbians.

[Necro]

Would I ban gay married? No. Would I even judge someone differently form being in a gay marriage? No.

I think the whole system about this is extremely wrong. We say we don't mind having gay relationships, yet we say "we don't mind having gay relationships". See? We need to give a self explanation that we accept the event. You never ask to marry a girl, to see if its the right thing to do.

Homosexuality shall always be questioned to be different. It has since the dawn of time and some stupid book written 2000 years ago just enforces that. Who cares what some made up being (God) thinks about what you do with your life? I couldn't care less.

Anyways, whatever. The whole gay scene where I am doesn't exist, Bi's the fashion. Seems kinda inviting...

[Antikhrist]

I would have to agree with everything the Aussie said.

Homosexuality is a choice you make. Who's to say you need approval from the government on marrying a member of the same sex. There's no harm in same-sex relationships, except for the fact that neither member of the relationship can reproduce. If anything, it'll help due to the current population increase.

There is no valid reason by to members of the same sex can't marry, so legalize it already. D:

[YopY]

The marriage as the western world knows it stems from the Christian sense of the word, mostly. It's stated pretty obviously that marriage is for one man and one woman, which is why from a cultural background, gay marriage is not accepted by most people.

While nowadays religion is taking up a less important place, the values taught by them still exist. Including gay marriage.

Personally, I think anyone can do whatever the **** they want. Marriage nowadays is only a formal happening, a contract is established for financial and tax purposes, and some vows are said which, in at least 50% of the cases, are broken eventually.

Homosexuality in general is fine as well, just as long as I can avoid it when I'm annoyed by it. I draw the line at parties like the Gay Parade, where homosexuals parade around half-naked in the waters of Amsterdam, ****ing each other up the arse on boats, in public, on camera. And they wonder why there are people who hate homosexuals.

If they want to be accepted, they shouldn't butt**** each other in public like that. Heterosexuals don't do festive boat orgies either, as far as I'm aware.

It just seems that the part of homosexuals that wants the world to know they're gay and like to take it up the arse is giving the part that just normally lives with their sexual preference a bad name.

[Angelus-Mortis]

Of course not. I think it's just ridiculous. I certainly hope they're not banning homosexuality because their religion says it's wrong. If they are, then they're not keeping church and state separate. I'm not homosexual myself, but if people want to do that, I don't see the harm. It's none of the church's business who gets to marry who; you can marry yourself quite easily without requiring a priest or religion. As long as the couple in the homosexual relationship are consenting, I also don't see the problem. You're not harming anyone by marrying someone of the same gender who also consents to the marriage.

[Zyniker]

Why in the world should it be banned? Yes it’s true that homosexuals do not fall into the traditional definition of marriage, which includes a man and a woman joined together to form a conventional family. However what is really important in a marriage is love and trust. Marriage is the union of souls (so to say), and that cannot be regulated by some act of Congress. As I’ve stated before I’m not gay, but I do believe that if two humans love each other, regardless of their sex, they should be able to be married and receive the same tax reductions, titles, and rights as anyone else. If two women love each other lets say, shouldn’t they have the right to visit their partner in hospital, even if the partner's blood family doesn’t like them?

Gay people fall seriously in love just like straights. Just how does encouraging gays to lead promiscuous, unmarried lives strengthen family values? In medieval times marriage was possible between members of the same sex. Clearly, it did not stop straight people from marrying then. It would not now. If two people of the same sex want to get married, let them! You don’t have to have anything to do with them. The people who just want to interfere and make life miserable for gays must just get over themselves. Tolerance is not what homosexual activists are seeking (in general). They are demanding that society elevate homosexuality to the moral level of marriage. When they bring the law into it, they are no longer just minding their own business but imposing it on every single citizen.

Now this is where my opinions get tricky because I don’t believe in homosexuals adopting… Yeah maybe it should be their right, but I just don’t agree with it. I don’t feel that someone in today’s society should be condemned because of their parents. If two men adopt a child and bring him up the child’s bound to have countless hardships just because of this fact. Not only will he be persecuted because of his parents but he’ll be made fun of and believed to be gay himself, even if he/she’s not. This will fill the Childs life with hardships he or she does not deserve. Maybe one day when homosexuality is more accepted it’ll be ok, but not for some time now. Or at least that’s what I believe.

[Jak]

You're a fag if you say yes, therefore you have to say no.

[Zyniker]

That’s a somewhat ironic statement.

[Daryl Falchion]

There's no valid reason to oppose homosexuality or gay marriage. The only arguments I've ever seen presented against it have been nothing more than obvious excuses for bigotry.

Same for me. The arguments I've heard is "it's unnatural", "it's sinful", "it's against God's law". Frankly, the type of people who don't have the deceny to respect people's rights. Who cares if two people decide to get married or screw around? It's very simple--as long as it's between two consenting adults and it hurts no one else it's no one else's business.

[Jak]

Originally Posted by Zyniker

That’s a somewhat ironic statement.

Yes, I know.

[Pollensalta]

how does one go about 'banning' homosexuality anyways? how do you 'ban' a natural characteristic that someone is born with? do you exterminate gay people or something?

crazy extremists.

[God]

I am God. And in my Book, it says "Thou shalt not stick thy baby maker in thy brother's bum."

Now bum sehks me, Jak.

[Larsa]

Originally Posted by Pollensalta

how does one go about 'banning' homosexuality anyways? how do you 'ban' a natural characteristic that someone is born with? do you exterminate gay people or something?

crazy extremists.

Well remember the holochast? The Nazis foun out a somehow whether you where jewish by many tactics. And there were also homosexuals that were killed in the holochast so the Nazis found out somehow if someone was jewish.