Your faith

[King Hydro]

Originally Posted by Beeble

The thing that changed is that i still believe in God, but a God that don't interfere with mankind. I believe in evolution, not that God created us. I believe that there was a man called Jesus, not that he was the son of God. The bible is a book that can be good to read and it's got a lot of good examples how man should live, but it has just as many bad examples. It was written by man, and therefor it can't be taken as the words of God.

Sounds like it works for you, which is great. But there'll be alot who disagree with you - that the Bible IS the word of God, written by man.

I like how you put the "good and bad examples of ways to live", really gets you thinking.

[Beeble]

If you are a christian that truly believes in God, Jesus and the holy spirit, then it is impossible to believe that God really "said" all what is in the Bible. Because some of it, heck i'd even say most of it, really is hypocritical bull****.

[Goatboy]

Most Christians are Fideists.

[Shakan'Dar]

I'd say a lot of the Bible can be perceived to be hypocritical, and indeed, that is one of the main arguments against it, but people that use this argument fail to realize that the "hypocrisy" is just between Old Testament and New Testament. The Old Covenant with God told us how to live, and prophesied the coming of Christ. When he came, he fulfilled the Old Testament, and gave us a new covenant with God. So the New Testament is what we follow and the Old Testament is what we USED TO follow. Basically, Old Covenant is pretty much void, and the reason to read it now is to see how God changed our relationship with Him. Given that knowledge, the so called hypocrisy and contradictions are given context, and I hope that makes things clearer for a lot of people.

[Jay]

Well, everyone knows where I stand on the religion issue.

[Shakan'Dar]

I don't. Your statement is void. Please elaborate.

[Jay]

[Jay]

[Goatboy]

Christians are atheists. They just believe on one more God than the garden variety atheist. When they understand why they don't believe in other gods, they'll understand why we don't believe in their gods. To paraphrase.

[Jay]

Religion is stupid.

[Goatboy]

(Why is the postbox so small?)
From my school's MySpace forum:

Originally Posted by preacher type

Hey,

Send me a friend request!
This is my Catholic Myspace

www.myspace.com/catholicbattlecry

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Originally Posted by freshman type

hey! r u the guy who was at the BNI masses? the priest with the dark hair?

i didnt know priests had myspaces

Originally Posted by bitch type

Catholic propaganda is the greatest.

Originally Posted by me type

Originally Posted by me type

Won't you be my neighbor?

Originally Posted by freshman type

wow

thats all i can say
wat did hitler do to jesus?

Originally Posted by preacher type

Its funny you left me that comment.

All I have to say is that the Catholic Church does NOT teach that only Catholic go to heaven. In fact, if you look at the teachings of Pope John Paul II and todays Pope B16 on unity. YOu will see that they teach that we are all Children of God who should work together. There is more on that but, I dont want to waste my time if your not even really intrested.

So, you posting that comment is pointless the Catholic Church doesnt fit God only in our own relgions. Their are truths of God in every relgion!

Originally Posted by bitch type

I guess I came off a little harsh. It's just I don't believe in the Catholic or Christian God. I do believe in something greater than us, some force that creates and guides us in which everything has some connection to. The concept of God is too immense for any person to understand. So why waste our time thinking about a power greater than we'll ever be that we can't comprehend?

I can't stand religious wars, fights, the usual "my religion, therefore my god, is the right way, " and religious recruiting. In every single religion that promotes goodness to others and one's self, there is part of the truth. If we can break down our walls and differences among faiths and join together, more of the truth that can be revealed on Earth will come to us.

Since God is too big for one religion, why be limited to one religion? I've combined Christian, Wiccan, Shinto, Buddhist, Native American, Pagan, Hindu, and other religions into my beliefs. I hope by doing this, I can live a better life, carefree of any one's obligations, live a positive live, and die knowing I did something. But what comes after death? Do we die and rot to nothingness? Do we get judged by a god? Do we become a new life on Earth? Well, the answer is, no one knows. To encompass everyone's views on the subject, I believe that whatever your true thought are on death will happen to you when you die.

So these are my views and you can see why I find religious recruiting just as bad as army recruiting or Hitler getting thousands of men to join his army. Yeah, a bit hippie-ish, I know, but they had some good points too. If you have faith, kindle it and keep it true in your heart. Don't be a Pharisee about it.


On another note, I want to read the GOD comic.

Originally Posted by wacky but lovable friend type

I agree.

In fact, a personal goal of mine is to go to every religious precession I can possibly go to....Buddhist, Hindu, Jewish, etc.

I mean. If you can't open up to more than one option or opinion, then you're being close minded.

Originally Posted by me type

I just had a whole long thing, but MySpace, being a crap site, lost it, most likely dead six feet down with your wiki. So, I'll summarize:

I am an atheist.

I find it hypocritical that you advertise at a Catholic school's forum to get people to add you as a friend, or to view your website, yet either ignore their messages or say you won't waste your time when someone expresses different beliefs. What do you hope to achieve by preaching to the converted? Aren't your evangelical efforts better spent converting unbelievers to the "Truth?"

An engineer with his degree rests safely knowing the laws of aerodynamics are tucked away in a book where he can find them whenever he needs them. He doesn't need to constantly be lectured an the laws, or to read and reflect on them nightly, to believe in them anymore than he does. Religion is the only place where people repeat the same things over and over throughout their entire lives, just like a lie you tell yourself so often that you come to believe in it.

And I'll throw in some quotes for you:

"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen F Roberts, internet columnist.

"The history of Christianity is principally a story of mankind's misery and ignorance rather than of its requited love of God." ... "Religion is nothing more than bad concepts held in place of good ones for all time. It is the denial—at once full of hope and full of fear—of the vastitude of human ignorance." - Sam Harris, author of The End of Faith and Letter To A Christian Nation

"Richard Dawkins equates the religious indoctrination of children by parents and teachers in faith schools to a form of mental abuse on children. Dawkins is angered by the term “Muslim child” or a “Catholic child”, of which he discusses and devotes a whole chapter to in his book The God Delusion. He asks how a young child can possibly be considered intellectually mature enough to have such independent views on the cosmos and humanity’s place within it. By contrast, Dawkins points out, no reasonable person would speak of a "Marxist child" or a "Tory child"." - Wikipedia, Criticism of religion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Beeble]

Yes, religion is stupid, and nothing else has caused so many peoples deaths as religion.

[Ugly Casanova]

Religion isn't stupid. Religion didn't kill anyone, it's the fanatics.

Those with some kind of sanity and knowledge to know the difference between right and wrong see religion as a source of hope. I see nothing wrong with people who use religion. Hey, we all have to get by right? Some people just like to think someone is watching over it. It's all gravey, baby.

[Beeble]

You've got a point there...the fanatics are stupid. And yes it can be quite nice to believe that something superior is watching over us sometimes.

[Goatboy]

You're only supporting inferiority complexes and delusions. "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness." - Marx

[Batman]

And what's wrong with inferiority complexes and delusions?

[Goatboy]

Having them.

[Ryder]

I was raised a Catholic but have struggled with my beliefs for a while as some of the 'rules' for lack of a better word just seemed outdated and ridiculous to me. For example, I WANT to **** (and have) and I WANT to use (and have) contraception. A lot of things we were told to follow didn't make any sense to me and to be honest, religion is used an an excuse for a lot of hate.
So I have my own ideas God and spirituality. I believe in life after death but not heaven and hell, I don't believe in the Devil and I don't believe in Good and Evil. I got a lot of my views from a book called "Conversations with God" but like anyone should do, I accepted the ideas that made sense to me and rejected those I didn't perceive to be true.

[Ugly Casanova]

Originally Posted by Goatboy

Having them.

Pfffhahahahahah!

[I AM THE CAPS MONSTER]

I haven't got one? o.O